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Cracklist Babies

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Hello guys!

I am sure everyone has gone through trials with buying bikes and parts, here is one of my stories.


Well, I have had my GS for about a year and a half now, having gotten it from a co worker friend who took pity on me as I looked for an older street bike to tinker on. Once it was in my hands for $300, I started checking the usual places for the parts it needed or even another parts bike. I no longer have access to e*ay or Cracklist during the workday, even at lunch, but that is probably for the best.

I have had decent luck dealing with e*ay and Cracklist, but I have to say any free service is rife with flakes. At least e*ay scammers have to put up some coin and modest attempt at confirmation is made and payp*l offers a bit of recourse.

The one thing Cracklist offers more than e*ay is the joy of dealing one on one with some crazy individuals. I wish I would have kept the pics and the correspondence from these ads to illustrate the stories, but I didn?t know about GSR at the time so I did not feel the need.

The first ad simply stated ?Suzuki $400 obo? and was a one sentence ad with several spelling errors and a small pic of an ?82 GS1100E with no front fender or side cover (at least on this side) in front of a barn. The best part was the milk crate bungee?d to the back with the dog sitting in it, an Australian Sheppard by the looks of it.

It was about two hours away, but I thought if it runs well it is at least worth that. And I might be able to talk him down some as the ad stated he needed to get rid of it quick, like today. The ad was a day old when I saw it, but it was still up so I emailed him. Normally, I hate it when there is no phone # attached and you have to jump through hoops to get a hold of the seller, but this time I am glad I didn?t give this guy my contact info.

I ask if the bike is still for sale and if he has any better description of it, like does it run, why he is selling it, does it have papers, etc. He responds back in a rambling, page long email with no pronunciation, capitalization and atrocious spelling. I really wish I would have kept it, to try and reproduce it would be like copying the Mona Lisa, and it would pale next to the master. I will paraphrase.

Yes, he still had the bike but he was being evicted (went on to tell me the injustices of the system and how his girlfriend had left with his cash and his car) and had to do a deal NOW! The bike ran, and will run again once some of the parts had been put back on. Apparently the little photo in the ad was a ?before? picture. When it did run, it was FASSSST (his word), he had pulled wheelies in ALL 4 gears (I guess he started in second) and it would do 90 in second. But it needed a little work now, he said he was a get-r-done kind of guy, like me (apparently he knew me already) and could have it running in a few hours if he had to, without any new parts. You do what you have to do, right? Never say never. He did say it didn?t look like the picture anymore, but he didn?t have a camera. He still doesn?t provide a contact number, or say whether or not he has the papers for it.

I write back thanking him for getting back to me and ask the same questions again. I also ask what is wrong with it.

He writes back another page long reply talking about brotherhood and how you make the best of what you have, right? He tells me the outer covers are shattered from being dropped but not to worry, he slathered JB weld on them and they ?hardly leak a drop?. He said he no longer has the seat and the tank is damaged as well as the headlight and forks. Not to worry, it wasn?t ?recked (his word), it was from being pulled by a tractor. He says he has papers and ?if I really need them? he could try to find them. Still no number.

I write back that I am probably not interested, especially for $400 in a non running, damaged GS with no papers, which needed to be pulled by a tractor. Was it seized? I thank him for his time and tell him no thanks.

He writes back the third page of his Rain Man style replies. States the bike isn?t seized, the tractor was to pull it out of the barn.

During the fire.

That burned the seat.

Which is one of the reasons for the eviction.

He rambles on about the American dream and people looking out for each other, etc, etc, etc. Still no contact number.

At this point I stop reading and write back I am really not interested, too much trouble, I can?t miss work to close a deal before the next weekend, thanks again, good bye.

This time he replies in all caps about wasting his time, how California sucks and he?s going back to Ohio. Oh, and he would take $200.

Still no contact number.

I have a second story for another time about a kid selling the GS dragbike he inherited from his uncle, while still at his uncle?s funeral. I really wanted that one.

Cheers, Erick
 
Sometimes Cracklist will do ya right..
I called on an add that simply said "Suzuki $100" and gave a phone number..

I didn't hear back by the next day and blew it off..
Then I get a call from the guy.. last 3 guys he called back didn't bother to show up.. It's a 79 GS1000L.. Yeah He's got a title..
I had my trailer and I over there in about 30 minutes :) Came home with this.

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If you really want to drag out the crack list crazy folks try selling something.. It's hardly worth the effort.. Yeah umm I don't have a truck.. can you deliver that couch? I'm only like 10 miles away.. I'll give ya gas money.. Then you show up and they don't want it!!!

Or they can't read!!! Post a table with all dimensions. They idiots still ask how big is it??

or

Will that fit in the back of my car? I don't know I've never tried to put a recliner in the trunk of a Honda.

75% never bother to show up anyway.
 
I tried to sell a bike on CL once. I had 17 emails ranging from a Mexican national who didn't speak English, have a license, or any idea where he lived all the way to a teenager who wanted to trade me an ipod, a wii and a digital camera for it. I asked him if he could shoplift a 1200 CC bandit and then we would make a deal.

You meet the strangest people on CL. And remember, most get to vote just like you can.
 
I tried to sell a bike on CL once. I had 17 emails ranging from a Mexican national who didn't speak English, have a license, or any idea where he lived all the way to a teenager who wanted to trade me an ipod, a wii and a digital camera for it. I asked him if he could shoplift a 1200 CC bandit and then we would make a deal.

You meet the strangest people on CL. And remember, most get to vote just like you can.

Also, they can breed more voters! :eek:
The proof, is in the White-house. :(

Eric :)
 
Sometimes Cracklist will do ya right..
I called on an add that simply said "Suzuki $100" and gave a phone number..

I didn't hear back by the next day and blew it off..
Then I get a call from the guy.. last 3 guys he called back didn't bother to show up.. It's a 79 GS1000L.. Yeah He's got a title..
I had my trailer and I over there in about 30 minutes :) Came home with this.
The local ad for the 1100 I picked up stated that it was an '83 1000E, the description was maybe a sentance. So, I figured it was either a pre 80 1000 or maybe a '83 1100. So, after emailing him a few times I figured out it was at least a 4 valve 1100, year unknown. Acutally turned out to be an '82 1100EZ. And a peach at that. These bikes are soooo much more rare up here than down there. Sitting in his basement for 24 years.:cool:
Quite a find:D
 
talked to the nicest guy selling his 750L. Was selling it for $500, total steal in good condition. No papers though, it was owned by a man who died and his parents just wanted it gone. Tried at $300 because a title costs $300 and he respectfully rejected the offer. Called him again and he did sell, was nice enough to let me know he sold it for $500 and wished me luck finding a bike.
 
I've been trying to sell a complete RF900 engine/transmission for about a month now on CL. For $50, just to get it out of the way. Here is a typical email exchange.

"Does it run?"

Well, no, the engine turns freely with compression as I said in my ad. It's not a boat anchor. It's just the engine, for $50.

"Do you have all the other stuff to make it run?"

Well, yes, I do. I have the carbs. harness, CDI unit, coils. All the basic stuff you'd need to put it in your... (insert 4 wheeler, go cart, bobber, etc...), but that's not included for $50. I really want it gone, so I'll make you a deal on that stuff though $125 for everything.

Can you meet me halfway on my 132 mile drive to pick it up?

Well, no, if I wanted to spend half a day messing with it, I'd go to the trouble to crate it up nicely and sell it on ebay for 4 times that price.

Then never hear from them again.
Variations on the above theme involving trades for old computers, etc....
 
I haven?t had to sell on Cracklist, yet. I have gotten some good deals off it as well, mostly appliances and tools, some parts. I don?t mess around, I establish what it is, where they are and make arrangements to close the deal. Like I said, I have had decent luck. But you have to wade through a lot of muck to find the treasures.

The other GS specific bit of fun I had with Cracklist involved an ad that stated ?Suzuki dragbike, $600?. The ad showed a cell phone camera pic of a lowered 83 GS1100E with a Corbin seat, struts, flatslides and pods from what I could make out, it was facing out a clean garage door to a nice suburban street. It was a dark color and looked clean. The ad stated they wanted to sell it today, no location, and no phone number, apologized for the pic as it was taken with his Blackberry and that was how he placed the ad. No other details. It was placed at 8 in the morning and I found it and responded before 8:30. I emailed immediately telling him to consider it sold and I would meet with him immediately to pay for it, asked for contact and location info and I put in my cell number.

I get an email about 15 minutes later. Judging by the spelling and abbreviations he seemed like a teenager. He wrote back saying he was going to sell it to the first person to show up with the money, he is in a town in the north bay, but he wasn?t sure of the address as he was only in town for the funeral. He would get back to me with the address. Still, no phone number.

I email back that I am about three hours away, but would leave right now if I knew something would still be there when I arrived. I would get directions from him on the way if he would give me a number.

About an hour later I get another email. He says they are on the way to the funeral of his uncle, the former owner of the bike. Says he inherited it. States he is up from Palm Springs with his girlfriend for the day and he can?t take the bike home with him and need to sell it today. He continues to tell me how his cousins and he fired it up this morning and scared the crap out of himself tearing down the street on it. Still no number, but he says he will call me after the funeral if I give him a number. I am beginning to think he is sending this message to several people as I already included my number twice before, but I do it again stating I would be on my way already if he gave me confirmation, no questions asked.

Nothing happens for four hours, so I email him again, apologizing if he is still at the funeral but asking for an update.

He writes back about an hour later stating his cousin decided he wants it, so it isn?t for sale anymore. But he would gibe my info to him if he changes his mind.

The ad remains up for three more days.
 
I suspect it is most Internet sales. I belong to a car forum b/c of my TransAm. I am looking for a stock rear end that I can rebuild with the parts I have on hand. Found one posted on the forum, in "NW Indiana" and I contacted the guy. Well, he was actually 30 minutes south of Chicago in Ill. Hmm. I asked him what parts came with it, and about where he lived so I could mapquest the distance. We went back and forth for several more emails, constantly degrading. He wasn't definite on what came with it, didn't have actual possession, his buddy took it apart to use some parts from it, he was going to pick it up, etc., never even saying where he was located until the last, even though I patiently asked each time, as well as for a picture or two (which never came). I finally surrendered, as he had lowered me to his level of stupidity and then beaten me with experience.
 
I've been trying to sell a complete RF900 engine/transmission for about a month now on CL. For $50, just to get it out of the way.

Hey Doctorgonzo, I've been lookin all over for one of them RF engines, if you would deliver it to me here in Illinois I'd give you $20 and 2 (two) old cell phones for it. :clap::clap::clap::clap:

oops this isn't the Joke Thread either
 
I've got a GS700 rolling chassis with a mostly complete engine in it. I've been trying to get rid of it for a couple of years now, with no luck. In desperation, I posted it on Cracklist for, "$50, no title, ten miles west of Indianapolis, you come get it".

I had about fifteen replies, mostly from guys wanting to put it in a go cart (which is what my ad suggested be done with it). Nearly all of them wanted to know if I'd deliver it (no), if I "had papers with it" (what am I selling, a bag of pot?), or if it still ran (one look at the pic ansered that question pretty readily since there were no carbs, exhaust, body parts, etc.. on it). Oh well. I really want it gone.

I replied to several of the less dangerous sounding replies that if they came to get it, they could have it for $20 (I would have said free, but then some diphole would keep stringing me along that he was coming to get it and never would). NO takers. For the next two months, about once a week or so, a reply would pop up in my email account, each one sounding more deranged than the last.

By this point, I've got about three-four hours invested in posting the ad and answering replies. It was once again a verification of the old adage:

"The more people I meet, the more I like my dog."
 
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When reading this it makes me think of the first motorized 2 wheel vehicle I ever purchased. This was responsible for getting me into motorcycling and eventually my GS habit. 1994 50cc Yamaha Razz....read Honda Elite scooter.

I saw the ad for it on CL and it was the 2 line variety. Listed the Razz at $500.00. I blew it off. It stayed up for several days so I thought I'd call the guy and at least see he would come down on the price. I did and he said that yes the price was negotioable and I needed to see it and ride it.

Okay I'll bite. I showed up at his duplex and knocked on the door. A young, very pregnant, girl answers the door with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth and asks if I'm the guy that wants to buy the scooter. I replied, I'm the guy that needs to see it first. Okay, My boyfriend will go get it. Its chained up in front of the liquor store down the street.

I said okay and waited for the guy to return. Down the street come the worst looking excuse for a scooter I'd ever seen. On the scooter was a kid with two bandaged hands trying to ride it.

He makes a turn into the drive and parks it and we start talking.

His girlfriend is pregnant
They need a car instead of the scooter
He has a Cadilac in the garage that caught on fire
He need to repair the Caddy, so he's selling the scooter to get the money
Scooter's throttle cable broke
Used Choke cable for throttle
Can't turn bike too hard one direction because it goes full throttle because the cables too short.
Needs a read tire
Body work is painted flat black
Surprisingly it runs okay and most of the parts are there.

I make a lowball offer ($150.00) he says I'll take $160.00. I need $160.00 because I owe my girlfriend 2 packs of smokes. I am about to wet my pants from this last statement but it gets better......

He goes on to explain that the money from the scooter is really going to pay for his stereo system that will be reposessed if he doesn't make the payment. He does owe girlfriend the smokes and he is in trouble because he can't donate plasma now for the money to buy smokes for her and pay for the stereo.
We're this far into it and I can't go away without finding out why he can't donate plasma anymore. He shows me his bandaged fingers and and says they won't take my plasma because I burned my hands.
How did you burn your hands?

"I was making one big firecracker out of a toilet paper roll by breaking a bunch of little ones in half and putting all the powder into the toilet paper roll and her smoke dropped into the roll and caused a flash fire."

I handed him $175.00 and tanked him for the scooter. He said I paid him too much money. I said "No, I didn't" "College fund for the baby"

1994 yammy Razz $165.00
2 packs of smokes $10.00
The story and the memory .............PRICELESS
 
jimfj, thanks for sharing that story.
I think I just about died laughing so hard! :D

Eric :)
 
When reading this it makes me think of the first motorized 2 wheel vehicle I ever purchased. This was responsible for getting me into motorcycling and eventually my GS habit. 1994 50cc Yamaha Razz....read Honda Elite scooter.

I saw the ad for it on CL and it was the 2 line variety. Listed the Razz at $500.00. I blew it off. It stayed up for several days so I thought I'd call the guy and at least see he would come down on the price. I did and he said that yes the price was negotioable and I needed to see it and ride it.

Okay I'll bite. I showed up at his duplex and knocked on the door. A young, very pregnant, girl answers the door with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth and asks if I'm the guy that wants to buy the scooter. I replied, I'm the guy that needs to see it first. Okay, My boyfriend will go get it. Its chained up in front of the liquor store down the street.

I said okay and waited for the guy to return. Down the street come the worst looking excuse for a scooter I'd ever seen. On the scooter was a kid with two bandaged hands trying to ride it.

He makes a turn into the drive and parks it and we start talking.

His girlfriend is pregnant
They need a car instead of the scooter
He has a Cadilac in the garage that caught on fire
He need to repair the Caddy, so he's selling the scooter to get the money
Scooter's throttle cable broke
Used Choke cable for throttle
Can't turn bike too hard one direction because it goes full throttle because the cables too short.
Needs a read tire
Body work is painted flat black
Surprisingly it runs okay and most of the parts are there.

I make a lowball offer ($150.00) he says I'll take $160.00. I need $160.00 because I owe my girlfriend 2 packs of smokes. I am about to wet my pants from this last statement but it gets better......

He goes on to explain that the money from the scooter is really going to pay for his stereo system that will be reposessed if he doesn't make the payment. He does owe girlfriend the smokes and he is in trouble because he can't donate plasma now for the money to buy smokes for her and pay for the stereo.
We're this far into it and I can't go away without finding out why he can't donate plasma anymore. He shows me his bandaged fingers and and says they won't take my plasma because I burned my hands.
How did you burn your hands?

"I was making one big firecracker out of a toilet paper roll by breaking a bunch of little ones in half and putting all the powder into the toilet paper roll and her smoke dropped into the roll and caused a flash fire."

I handed him $175.00 and tanked him for the scooter. He said I paid him too much money. I said "No, I didn't" "College fund for the baby"

1994 yammy Razz $165.00
2 packs of smokes $10.00
The story and the memory .............PRICELESS

that's too funny! Worst I got was a pair of shmoes that showed up to my house absolutely stoned to check out my "rice rocket." It was a cb750- with a vetter fairing, and they drove in from rhode island...
 
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