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easiest way to monoshock?

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is the bandit the easiest way to monoshock? what about SV or GS500 perhaps? from what ive read, GSXR is a no go, but the bandit guys have found a way to use GSXR swingers. i know im going to have to weld in an upper shock mount, but other than that, what else is there? over the last few days, ive rear countless threads using the search function, but i havent found the exact answer im looking for. yes, the bandit works with katman mods, but are they even available any more?

i personally dont care for the boxy look of a modern swinger, but i like the monoshock, so i guess i get both.

any help from those more "in the know", please, give me your $.02
 
80GS1000 is definately the dude to know when it comes to that mod. I have a related question for him: Were one to go mono on a GS frame, would it be necessary to brace the frame further than just adding the shock mount? Seems to me, and im no expert, but removing the dual shock set up would possibly cause a lot of allowance for lateral twist when cornering without said bracing??
 
TheCafeKid said:
80GS1000 is definately the dude to know when it comes to that mod. I have a related question for him: Were one to go mono on a GS frame, would it be necessary to brace the frame further than just adding the shock mount? Seems to me, and im no expert, but removing the dual shock set up would possibly cause a lot of allowance for lateral twist when cornering without said bracing??
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Yes, I think it's necessary to brace the frame when monoshocking a GS frame to help it handle the extra forces put into the subframe area. Newer forks and swingarms are much stiffer than their GS counterparts. Radial tires allow for faster, higher-G cornering than their bias ply counterparts. I did bracing D & E below (credit oldskoolsuzuki.info in the GSX section) and the frame feels much more rigid and stable in the twisties than before. No more wallowing, "hinged-in-the-middle" feeling mid-corner.

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iv'e done more of these conversions than most & in answer to your original question yes the b12 swap is easiest to do but i'm not sure where you got the info that a gsxr conversion is a no go ???

90's gsxr arms are very similar to fit to b12 arms its only the late braced arms that cause minor clearance issues ;)
 
tone said:
iv'e done more of these conversions than most & in answer to your original question yes the b12 swap is easiest to do but i'm not sure where you got the info that a gsxr conversion is a no go ???

90's gsxr arms are very similar to fit to b12 arms its only the late braced arms that cause minor clearance issues ;)
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i meant late models, not slabs/slings. but evidently those arent even out of the question.
 
No not out of the question at all but they do involve a little more work ;)
 
What about the GS1150 rear? That should bolt right in (with the obvious exception of the monoshock mount). That way you'd have a less boxy swingarm compared to the more modern set-ups.
 
Doing more research

Doing more research

I've got a B12 swingarm and all the linkage and shock. I'm trying to mock up the rear wheel in the swing arm and get the spacers right.....haven't finshed the mock up yet...anyway...

My '82 is still in one piece so I'm not commited yet to the B12 swing arm.

I was cruising ebay and say a cool looking swing arm for a TL1000R. It's under braced and I was wondering if one of these swing arms would work any better or worse than the B12 or other GSXR arms.
 
the Tl1000R swingarm will not to GS1100 easily.
The bearing of front axle is single ball bearing and it make the case of the front axle too big.
the front part of the axle case will touch the engine case.
I tried and it is not work except you do a lot of cutting and welding work.
 
i also looked into the TL swingarm. would have been SUPER hard, but alot of work for sure. i decided against it about the same time i gave up on monoshocking. then i picked it back up about 3 weeks ago.



what is this "less boxy" GS1150 swingarm you speak of?
 
If you want a nice, easy bolt-on upgrade to the stock GS1000 swingarm with a dual-shock setup, try the swingarm from a chain-drive GS1100. No fuss, no muss and much stiffer than the noodle, I mean swingarm on a stock GS1000.

Looks like this:

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I saw a single-sided, monoshock swingarm from a Ducati on ebay the other day. Wouldn't that be cool? If only I had ton of money and time.
 
If you want a nice, easy bolt-on upgrade to the stock GS1000 swingarm with a dual-shock setup, try the swingarm from a chain-drive GS1100. No fuss, no muss and much stiffer than the noodle, I mean swingarm on a stock GS1000.
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Yeah, thats the swing arm on my bike now. I've considered just getting the last couple small parts for the front end and doing that and then just throw a 170 in my rear GSXR slingshot rim and do the easy swap. I might still do that and just have fun with it another summer and do the big tear down next fall and do the mono conversion with all the frame bracing and a full motor build.

Any hooo.
I still want to do the mono conversion. Your stead has had the wheels spinning in my head for a little while now and.....

Will a 'Buse rear whell with a 190 work in the B12 swingarm when mated in a GS frame?
 
I got people

I got people

I figured that I'm going to have to notch the frame for the chain. Thanks for reminding me about that tho.
Besides chain clearance are there any other issues with that wide a tire?
 
Just to add

Just to add

The reason I'm asking is I've has a "sreaming deal" come my way on a 'Busa rear wheel with every thing attached but the axel and the brake hanger. Don't really want to spend the money if there's no reason though. I still need a front axel...with a nut on it :o
 
The problem that you will run into with the 85-86 GS1150 and 86-87 gsxrs, is that if you had to adjust the ride height, you would also have to make some sort of dogbones (height adjuster)... The 89-92 arms, have dogbones and you can find them several places. This also what I had done by Terry McIntosh @McIntosh Fabrication. If I had to do it over again, I would go with a 2001-up Gsxr swingarm preferably a gsxr 600, only because you dont have the box and bracing on the top of the swingarm.Newer Gsxr supension parts are plentiful everywhere and are interchangeable with the Busa. Also the monoshock technology is far more advanced.

Bottom line, if you are going to be cutting and welding anyway, go for the more advanced Technology and do a late model swap. If you plan to change front wheels, look into changing the whole front end, for the ease and again for the technology.

The issues I had with trying to swap front wheels, is the width from brake rotor to rotor, on some wheels didnt match, hence, no front brakes. I have a 90 Katana front wheel on a 86 front end. Got lucky, the everything matched up except wheel bearing. I had to replaced bearings anyway, so I got the ones to fit the axle . . . .

Heres the bike I had done . . . this is with an aftermarket swingarm
 
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