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Electrex vs. ElectroSport

The biggest enemy of any R/R is heat. My electrex got so hot at times it was untouchable. voltage dropped as the temp rose. adding the often mentioned computer fan on top of it has eliminated the heat problem hence the voltage drop. might think about that with any R/R you replace.
 
Cajun Cycler said:
The biggest enemy of any R/R is heat. My electrex got so hot at times it was untouchable. voltage dropped as the temp rose. adding the often mentioned computer fan on top of it has eliminated the heat problem hence the voltage drop. might think about that with any R/R you replace.
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Yes, I am definitely going to add a fan. How did you mount yours to the R/R? Do you have the fan blowing at the R/R or pulling hot air away from it?

Thanks,
Joe
 
Joe Nardy said:
...I checked prices for the Electrex stator at Electrex UK ($112)...
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Joe,

When I check the price for a G02 stator at Electrex UK, the price in US dollars is $88.20 plus $16.20 shipping, for a total of $104.40. There is no VAT charged on export items. I think that this is the correct price.
 
Boondocks said:
Joe Nardy said:
...I checked prices for the Electrex stator at Electrex UK ($112)...
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Joe,

When I check the price for a G02 stator at Electrex UK, the price in US dollars is $88.20 plus $16.20 shipping, for a total of $104.40. There is no VAT charged on export items. I think that this is the correct price.
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I e-mailed them and got this response just yesterday:

Hi Joe

The cost of the G2 including shipping is £64.00 (approximately US$112.00).

You can order via our website at www.electrexworld.co.uk, by fax, email or telephone. In addition to your address we will need your telephone number and credit or debit card details.

Regards
Lesley Houghton
Electrex World Limited
Tel: **44 (0)1491 682369
Fax: **44 (0)1491 682286
www.electrexworld.co.uk


Regardless, I've already ordered it from Bike Bandit for $7 more. I don't mind giving Bike Bandit my business since they give AMA members a discount. Plus if there's any problems with it I won't have to worry about returning it overseas.

Thanks,
Joe
 
Joe, I knew that you had already ordered the stator and had made a good purchase decision, but was just trying to understand why the Electrex UK price quoted to you is different from their web site. Even pricing the G02 stator in British pounds, the price on their site is £58.00 including shipping.

I am having some misgivings about Electrex UK. Not only do they not seem to understand their own product applications, but they apparently don't know their own prices. :roll:
 
Joe Nardy said:
Cajun Cycler said:
The biggest enemy of any R/R is heat. My electrex got so hot at times it was untouchable. voltage dropped as the temp rose. adding the often mentioned computer fan on top of it has eliminated the heat problem hence the voltage drop. might think about that with any R/R you replace.
Click to expand...

Yes, I am definitely going to add a fan. How did you mount yours to the R/R? Do you have the fan blowing at the R/R or pulling hot air away from it?

Thanks,
Joe
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I used to have a picture of it handy but the fan is larger than the Electrex RR so I just found some long screws and bolted it over the top of it drilling holes in the backing plate the RR was bolted to. The fan is set to blow air down onto the RR running cooling air across the heatsink fins. there was enough space under the cover to allow full air flow.
 
Cajun Cycler said:
Joe Nardy said:
Cajun Cycler said:
The biggest enemy of any R/R is heat. My electrex got so hot at times it was untouchable. voltage dropped as the temp rose. adding the often mentioned computer fan on top of it has eliminated the heat problem hence the voltage drop. might think about that with any R/R you replace.
Click to expand...

Yes, I am definitely going to add a fan. How did you mount yours to the R/R? Do you have the fan blowing at the R/R or pulling hot air away from it?

Thanks,
Joe
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I used to have a picture of it handy but the fan is larger than the Electrex RR so I just found some long screws and bolted it over the top of it drilling holes in the backing plate the RR was bolted to. The fan is set to blow air down onto the RR running cooling air across the heatsink fins. there was enough space under the cover to allow full air flow.
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Thanks for the info. This seems like a very simple and inexpensive modification that can save a lot of money and headaches. I'll try to take pics and do a how-to article when I do mine.

Thanks,
Joe
 
Boondocks said:
Joe, I knew that you had already ordered the stator and had made a good purchase decision, but was just trying to understand why the Electrex UK price quoted to you is different from their web site. Even pricing the G02 stator in British pounds, the price on their site is £58.00 including shipping.

I am having some misgivings about Electrex UK. Not only do they not seem to understand their own product applications, but they apparently don't know their own prices. :roll:
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Yes, they seemed a bit unsure of what they were doing. For the extra few bucks I figure I'll have better luck with Bike Bandit if there are any issues.

Thanks,
Joe
 
Why would the reg/rec run so hot? Is it just a poor design? Or a sign of other problems?
 
I suspect it has a lot to do with the resistance in the ancient wiring on these beasts. My bike is 26 years old now. I doubt a wiring harness was meant to last forever.
 
Sleepy said:
Why would the reg/rec run so hot? Is it just a poor design? Or a sign of other problems?
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The R/R is supposed to get hot when the battery is charged and there isn't a large electrical requirement for accessories. Suzukis and many other motorcycles use permanent magnet alternators. This type of alternator is is always producing power, and if the electrics don't require the surplus current generated it has to go somewhere. The R/R body is a large heat sink with cooling fins designed to absorb this excess current in the form of heat.

Corrosion/bad connections in the wiring is a much greater concern, causing heat/melting of the wires and failure of other components, including the R/R. Continually running with a bad battery can also contribute to component failure.
 
wouldnt just a larger reg/rec unit make more sense? I know when I bought the Ricks replacement for my bike, I looked at several options - one was a larger generic reg/rec unit - I opted for the direct replacement unit for convenience. Would I have been better off with a larger unit?
 
Sleepy said:
wouldnt just a larger reg/rec unit make more sense? I know when I bought the Ricks replacement for my bike, I looked at several options - one was a larger generic reg/rec unit - I opted for the direct replacement unit for convenience. Would I have been better off with a larger unit?
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Definitely maybe. :wink: If the internal design and component quality of a larger unit are at least equal to the direct replacement unit and the bolt holes line up for easy fitting, a larger R/R would provide a larger surface for heat dissipation. It wouldn't necessarily last longer if corroded/melted wires and bad batteries remain in a charging circuit. Heat removal is not the only consideration in R/R design.

I wouldn't be concerned. Rick's R/Rs have a good reputation for quality.
 
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