Good Tools For My Tinkering??

[dyoung]

Hey Guys, just wondering if i could get recommendations on good must-have tools for the general maintenance i plan to do on my '83 GS850G?? Thanks

 

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[Larry D]

A set of metric wrenches and sockets will do most of it. An impact driver is nice to have to get the stubborn screws out. Of course, an assortment pliers and screwdrivers will probably be needed too. A metric set of feeler gauges for the valve adjustment......and the list goes on and on......

 

[chuck hahn]

You dont need top shelf Snap on stuff..I would go to the flea markets and get the 25cent specials. Get all the metric combination wrenches, 3/8 and 1/4 drive raqtchets and sockets, some long 8 or 10 inch shanked screw drivers, metric allen wrenches..thats sort of basic stuff. That way youll have the basics rather cheaply and if a wrench breaks its not a 12.00 loss. Now if you can afford the top shelf stuff then go for it.

 

[koolaid_kid]

I have actually switched to Harbor Freight tools. They now carry a lifetime warranty and they have some reasonably prices combo sets. Such as combination wrenches and socket/ratchet sets.

 

[sschering]

metric wrench set
metric regular and deep well sockets.
I like to have a 1/4 drive 3/8 sets handy
3/8 drive metric hex drivers (allen)
JIS screwdrivers in #2 and #3 sizes.
one LONG flat head screwdriver for adjusting carbs.
Impact driver
Rear axle nut takes a 24mm socket
front sprocket and clutch hub are 32mm
What the heck is the front axle? 17mm?
1/2 drive breaker bar for the big nuts
torque wrenches.. (won't get into specifics here) 5-80 ft/lb is a good start.

 

[GateKeeper]

I would go to the flea markets and get the 25cent specials.

Sorry but I have to disagree on getting the 25 cent special.......your just asking for issues...

you will either screw up the tool, or screw up the nut/bolt/screw etc......you could end up rounding out the corners on the nut, stripping the head on the screw, or even the wrench will open up, if some good force is applied in either taking something off or putting something on....

A crap tool is just that, crap....a good quality tool will last you a lifetime, buy it once and forget about it, pass it on to your kids.....

Craftsman at Sears, or Mastercraft at Canadian Tire, both have lifetime warranty and are of descent quality, I have sets over 15 years old, and some stuff my father gave to me, still like new.

I don't know about the Harbor Freight stuff or the Princess Auto (Power Fist) stuff, so I won't comment on that, I just don't think it's up to par.

Sears and Canadian Tire have sales on their tools a lot of the time, you wont go wrong with either

 

[chuck hahn]

HMM...i got a full box of old flea market ones and never an issue withn any of them. Look at the brands on them too. Just cuz there in the cheapo bin doesnt necessarily mean they arent decent ones. Youll find all kinds of brands in those bins. Can get a basic full outfitting for not much over 25 bucks or so. All you really needs is 8, 10, 12, 14, 17, 1nd 19 MM as a starter set. And whatever sizes the clutch hub abd sprockets nuts are. Heck you can even find a working electric impact gut for near dirt cheap. I got a nice Milwaukee 4 inch angle grinder for 5 bucks. I added a new longer length of cord and its been working well for maybe 6 or 7 years now. Check the names on things in the bins and youll be surprised!!!

 

[sschering]

I don't know about the Harbor Freight stuff or the Princess Auto (Power Fist) stuff, so I won't comment on that, I just don't think it's up to par.
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If you haven't looked at HF tools in a few years I'd go take a look again.
They have really improved the tool line..

I have their 3/8 hex drive sockets and they work just a swell as my craftsman ones. I don't think I'd get a ratchet there but the sockets and the smooth chrome hand wrenches look ok.

Chuck has a good point on Flea markets, industrial surplus stores, heck pawn shops too.
I have a bunch of snap on sockets I picked from the socket bin at Boeing Surplus. They sold em for $3 a pound!

I got full sets of standard and metric crafstman ignition wrenches (little wrenches about 4" long) for $5 at a pawn shop.

 

[MisterCinders]

metric wrench set
metric regular and deep well sockets.
I like to have a 1/4 drive 3/8 sets handy
3/8 drive metric hex drivers (allen)
JIS screwdrivers in #2 and #3 sizes.
one LONG flat head screwdriver for adjusting carbs.
Impact driver
Rear axle nut takes a 24mm socket
front sprocket and clutch hub are 32mm
What the heck is the front axle? 17mm?
1/2 drive breaker bar for the big nuts
torque wrenches.. (won't get into specifics here) 5-80 ft/lb is a good start.

Don't forget the 19mm wrench for turning the engine by hand. On some bikes it may be a 17mm. So make sure the wrench set goes up enough through the sizes.

 

[Dreef1999]

hand impact driver. The kind you hold and hit with a hammer.
I found my dremel invaluable for the first round of getting out those JIS screws that stripped. Just put a flat in the head, impact driver it out, replace the screw.

I also like having a cheap cold chisel set. When you just want to hit something with a hammer you might as well have the right tool for the job.

Sounds like i enjoy tools that allow me to use my hammer...

You don't need much for working on these machines sockets wise. Just try to get 6pt sockets instead of 12pt. A normal and deep size in 3/8" metric in the sizes previously mentioned will do almost everything you need.

 

[Dreef1999]

I guess if you want to do some things 'right' then you need a bit more.

If you want to do your carburetors right you will need a vacuum sync tool and a float bowl tool. Both can be made for cheap.

If you want to get your electrical system right you will need a multimeter. Probably also need a decent crimper and decent connections to fix the problems you find/create.

If you clean and calibrate the carbs properly, check and rehab the electrical, and remove and replace all of the ****ing JIS screws then you are way ahead of the curve i bet.

 

[koolaid_kid]

I guess if you want to do some things 'right' then you need a bit more.

If you want to do your carburetors right you will need a vacuum sync tool and a float bowl tool. Both can be made for cheap.

If you want to get your electrical system right you will need a multimeter. Probably also need a decent crimper and decent connections to fix the problems you find/create.

If you clean and calibrate the carbs properly, check and rehab the electrical, and remove and replace all of the ****ing JIS screws then you are way ahead of the curve i bet.

When you get a crimper, get a double crimper. And lots of spade connectors and some shrink tubing. Put the shrink tubing on first, crimp on the connector, and then place the shrink tubing on the end of the connector and use a heat gun or hair dryer to shrink it and act as weatherproofing and stress relief.
JIS screwdrivers are Japanese Industrial Standard Phillips head. This is why you will strip out the screw heads if you try to use an SAE screwdriver. I have read that you can grind off the end of an SAE screwdriver and it will work, but I have never tried it.

 

[chuck hahn]

Lighter will shrink wrap as well.

 

[MAJikMARCer]

Craftsman at Sears

They started selling Craftsman at Ace Hardware down here too. That's handy since Ace is only a few blocks away, where as Sears is across town. If the bike is torn apart and I need a tool, I'd rather have the short drive.

 

[Gonzo]

Add a fire extinguisher to that cart for carb and electrical work.

 

[koolaid_kid]

Some tools I have:
1/4 socket set and ratchet
3/8 socket set and ratchet
ratcheting wrenches
combo wrench set
Allen wrench set for on the bike
[URL="http://www.harborfreight.com/10-piece-t-handle-metric-hex-key-set-37862.html"]Allen wrench set for the workbench
extensions (could not find the 1/4" extensions on line)
heat gun
crimper
wire cutter/stripper
spade connectors Menards has the best prices
high temp extra thick electrical tape I use Scotch Super 88, got mine at Lowes
shrink tubing available everywhere. I use the adhesive type because it seals better.

HF also has 10-20% off discount coupons. You can find them in many "handyman and auto guy magazines".

 

[koolaid_kid]

Add a fire extinguisher to that cart for carb and electrical work.

Good point. Get an A/B/C one. I use the KIDDE brand, small ones are around $20.

 

[GateKeeper]

HMM...i got a full box of old flea market ones and never an issue withn any of them. Look at the brands on them too. Just cuz there in the cheapo bin doesnt necessarily mean they arent decent ones. Youll find all kinds of brands in those bins. Can get a basic full outfitting for not much over 25 bucks or so. All you really needs is 8, 10, 12, 14, 17, 1nd 19 MM as a starter set. And whatever sizes the clutch hub abd sprockets nuts are. Heck you can even find a working electric impact gut for near dirt cheap. I got a nice Milwaukee 4 inch angle grinder for 5 bucks. I added a new longer length of cord and its been working well for maybe 6 or 7 years now. Check the names on things in the bins and youll be surprised!!!

If you haven't looked at HF tools in a few years I'd go take a look again.
They have really improved the tool line..

I have their 3/8 hex drive sockets and they work just a swell as my craftsman ones. I don't think I'd get a ratchet there but the sockets and the smooth chrome hand wrenches look ok.

Chuck has a good point on Flea markets, industrial surplus stores, heck pawn shops too.
I have a bunch of snap on sockets I picked from the socket bin at Boeing Surplus. They sold em for $3 a pound!

I got full sets of standard and metric crafstman ignition wrenches (little wrenches about 4" long) for $5 at a pawn shop.

When someone says flea market, or bargain bins, etc, I am thinking and seeing your el cheapo stuff from China, or what ever 3rd world crap, stamped metal, rough as chit tools, handles on screwdrivers so brittle they shatter if you drop em,,,,, etc.....

if your getting stuff out of a bargain bin and it's full of Snap On or Husky or some sort of name brand, then it's just the price that is a bargain, not the tool....


as for the HF stuff, we don't have them up here in the Great White North (Canada) so I don't know, I do know the Princess Auto line (Power Fist) is not all that great.....

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[GSJim]

as for the HF stuff, we don't have them up here in the Great White North (Canada) so I don't know, I do know the Princess Auto line (Power Fist) is not all that great.....

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Last time I was at Princess Auto, they had Propoint branded tools, which are supposed to be higher quality than Power Fist. I haven't tried any yet. Someone told me they had JIS screwdrivers, but I never managed to find any (or anyone who knew what they were).

Most of my hand tools are Craftsman (Sears) or Mastercraft (Canadian Tire). Most new purchases are Mastercraft because CT is closer to home. My mechanic son sometimes gives me his old Mastercraft stuff when he upgrades to Mac or Snapon.

Jim