GS1000L to crazy cool looking bike

[speedorchid]

Hi,
I found this GS1000 on line and thought I'd ask what he did to the air intake into the engine.

Here is his.....

and here is mine.

Saw on the top 10 mistakes for newbies(http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=171846) the following....

"Trying to run the bike without the airbox...or installing pods, or a header, w/o rejetting. The air/fuel ratio will be drastically lean, which will not only cause running problems, but likely damage the engine too by causing it to run hot. Installing a free flowing exhaust will likewise change the jetting requirements, but not as drastically as pods."

Is that what this guy did?

thanks...love the look. although I think his front forks are a little low eh?ha ha

 

[Adler]

Those are pods. Based on the quality of the build I assume he re-jetted the carbs to accommodate the reduction in restriction.

 

[Steve]

Yes, those are what we call "pod" filters. No telling whether the carbs were re-jetted, but it's possible.

Yeah, the forks are low, they appear to be cut down, limiting the travel.
Some guys will do just about anything for a "look", regardless of what it does to handling.

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[7981GS]

The forks have been raised a few inches in the Triples.

Daniel

 

[JimmyR]

That's a very cool looking bike! I love the look but like suspension too.

 

[LoopGaroo]

Also, those arn't L forks.

And seat is made out of a hand bag.

 

[Big T]

That's only good for riding down to the local bar and ****ing off all his neighbors

Probably an art project and not much of a rider

 

[old_skool]

And seat is made out of a hand bag.

I almost pi$$ed myself laughing

 

[LoopGaroo]

I almost pi$$ed myself laughing

It's sad but true.

More pics on pipeburn, here:http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2011/5/23/1979-suzuki-gs1000.html

 

[old_skool]

Sorry a$$ comments on there defending the bike also, art is one thing, but to defend the lack of safety, those forks tops are just waiting to tear someone a new face in a sudden stop, faceplant=face hamburger.

 

[speedorchid]

ha you guys are funny! so about the "pod" filters...forget the crazy front forks ha ha Is that recommended/ not recommended, if I rip off the airbox from my bike and just plug in those pods what would happen? am I showing my newbie"ness"
learning r e a l l y s l o w l y ......love the forum, thx

 

[TheCafeKid]

ha you guys are funny! so about the "pod" filters...forget the crazy front forks ha ha Is that recommended/ not recommended, if I rip off the airbox from my bike and just plug in those pods what would happen? am I showing my newbie"ness"
learning r e a l l y s l o w l y ......love the forum, thx

That would be a massive mistake if you don't plan on completely re-jetting the carburetors for it.
Free flowing filters like pods allow a greater amount of air into the system than the stock airbox does. More air requires more fuel to burn at the optimum temperature. That means the jet sizes need to be increased and usually the needles either need to be adjusted or replaced with a needle with a faster taper.

If you were to put pods on your bike without re-jetting, IF it would run at all, it would run poorly, missing and spitting, and likely falling on its face when it moved into the needle and main circuits of the carbs. It would also have a very lean fuel-air mix, creating a very hot burn in the combustion chamber leading to possibly catastrophic damage to the engine (burnt valves, holed piston crowns, etc).

It is often recommended, quite smartly, to get the bike running correctly in stock form before making any engine/carburetor/exhaust system modifications. It's important to start from a level playing field, with an idea of how the bike is supposed to run, before adjusting anything. Trying to do these things without both a decent knowledge of what you need to do and what you're getting into, as well as how the bike performs currently and how it should perform after the modifications is simply setting yourself up for a great deal of frustration, expensive mistakes, and worse yet, reduced riding time and enjoyment of ownership.

 

[speedorchid]

ok thanks for the reply...By the way why am I on this forum at 4am? slight addiction I think. The airbox stays! ;-)

 

[koolaid_kid]

ok thanks for the reply...By the way why am I on this forum at 4am? slight addiction I think. The airbox stays! ;-)

Because you are sick, of course. You fit right in.
To restate what TCK said, first get it running correctly with the airbox. Once you do that, you can install pods with a DynoJet jet kit: http://www.dynojet.com/jetkits/motorcycle/suzuki.aspx
Stage 1 is for a bike with just pods or a pipe, Stage 3 is for a bike with pods and a pipe and also contains the Stage 1 jets.
Once correctly jetted, it will provide more performance (and more noise). It is not rocket science, and BassCliff's site: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/bikecliff/ has a link on how to use plug chops to get the jetting close. If you have access to a wideband (a.k.a. sniffer) it is pretty easy. A dyno is also useful for jetting.
Click on the link below for lots of discussions on how your carbs work and ideas on how to rejet your Mikuni carbs.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&tok=Yzd0r8a_dC_-33ZndGzpBw&cp=20&gs_id=26&xhr=t&q=jet+motorcycle+carbs&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&pbx=1&oq=jet+motorcycle+carbs&aq=0j&aqi=g-j1&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&gs_l=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=1361a018a51fd61&biw=1295&bih=613

 

[Kris V]

Putting pods on makes it a hell of alot easier to pull the carbs for periodic cleaning. It makes it run ten times better than that restrictive air box. Jetting them is easy. Take it from a drag racer that has been racing these since the early 80`s.

 

[tkent02]

Jetting them is easy. Take it from a drag racer that has been racing these since the early 80`s.

What is easy for an old drag racer may not be possible for a guy with no knowledge of the effect of pods on how a carburetor works.
His chances of getting the jetting perfect or even close without help are slim to none.

 

[Syd]

Yeah, very cool looking bike and how about that seat.

"Crushed nuts with your sundae Sir"

 

[Steve]

Putting pods on makes it a hell of alot easier to pull the carbs for periodic cleaning.

I have often wondered why you guys keep taking your carbs off, now I know. :dancing:

Just curious, though, what am I doing wrong? :-k
The carbs on my wife's bike were on the bike for SIX YEARS after being rebuilt. The only filters I have in the fuel system are the stock mesh filter on the petcock intake and the little screens on the tops of the float valves. The bike is ridden regularly during the summer months, then winterized before parking it for the winter. When ridden responsibly, it still gets over 50mpg and starts almost immediately every time.

The only reason I took the carbs off last year was to replace the upper-end gaskets on the engine. Just out of principle, I dipped them and replaced the o-rings, but it probably was not necessary.

By the way, just how often is your "periodic cleaning"?

.

 

[kochic]

I dont like the look of it, i dont like the look of L model either even if i own one.
Here is mine, I will put madura1200 wire wheel on it before the spring.
marc

 

[koolaid_kid]

What is easy for an old drag racer may not be possible for a guy with no knowledge of the effect of pods on how a carburetor works.
His chances of getting the jetting perfect or even close without help are slim to none.

I respectfully disagree. If he reads and understands the info on the sites I pointed him to he will have an excellent shot at jetting it pretty close. If he uses a wideband he will be spot on.