Looks like there is some white glue or caulking in there as well. Beer is good but in this case, a whiskey might be called for.
cg
151 proof rum.
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GS1150 ES Makeover Project
- Thread starter londonboards
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151 proof rum.
Exhaust Cam Condition
Exhaust Cam Condition
This is what the exhaust cam and bearings look like:
And the followers have some scoring:
This motor has been breathed on at some stage; Ape parts and high lift cams:
Greetings
Exhaust Cam Condition
This is what the exhaust cam and bearings look like:
And the followers have some scoring:
This motor has been breathed on at some stage; Ape parts and high lift cams:
Greetings
Nasty ... 
Serious Metal Chunks Found in Sump
Serious Metal Chunks Found in Sump
With the damage I have already seen to the top end of this motor, it was suggested that I remove the sump / oil pan and see what what is there. Shocking. But with a caveat. I have checked the clutch and pistons and they are all peachy (good). In fact the pistons are hardly scored at all.
I am thinking (praying) that this might be the residue of a previous engine failure. OR where else could these chunks have come from? We are talking serious bits of metal here:
(for the whole picture set see my blog here: GS1150 Metal Chunks)
The bigger pieces (aluminium):
Smaller pieces are steel:
All of the smaller pieces have this grooving on them:
Clutch and pistons are good:
Help!!!
Greetings
Serious Metal Chunks Found in Sump
With the damage I have already seen to the top end of this motor, it was suggested that I remove the sump / oil pan and see what what is there. Shocking. But with a caveat. I have checked the clutch and pistons and they are all peachy (good). In fact the pistons are hardly scored at all.
I am thinking (praying) that this might be the residue of a previous engine failure. OR where else could these chunks have come from? We are talking serious bits of metal here:
(for the whole picture set see my blog here: GS1150 Metal Chunks)
The bigger pieces (aluminium):
Smaller pieces are steel:
All of the smaller pieces have this grooving on them:
Clutch and pistons are good:
Help!!!
Greetings
I'm going with that. Clutch looks great now. I assumming the old clutch exploded and took out the old cylinder liners where they protrude into the crank. All have been replaced now. Just can't understand that they would not have split the cases and cleaned it all out after spending all that cash on new clutch, liners, pistons and so on.
Greetings
Greetings
Probably was a 1230 motor due to the lack of thickness on the liners. After the clutch grenade the PO found a used stock block, pistons and clutch. I doubt if he put much $$ into it if he didn't drop the pan and split the cases to clean it out.
But I could end up with a fresh motor. I know it has fresh pistons, rings, liners and a new clutch. As long as there is no other major damage, I just need to clean up the head and cams and bobs your uncle.
Greetings
Greetings
More Metal from Sump Filter
More Metal from Sump Filter
Got the sump filter off and discovered this little lot:
Bit included are parts of the piano wire retaining clip:
And this spring which I cannot place. Anyone have any ideas?
The ally bits were well rounded off, proving that they have been rattling around in this motor for some time:
No question about it now - this motor needs stripping down.
More Metal from Sump Filter
Got the sump filter off and discovered this little lot:
Bit included are parts of the piano wire retaining clip:
And this spring which I cannot place. Anyone have any ideas?
The ally bits were well rounded off, proving that they have been rattling around in this motor for some time:
No question about it now - this motor needs stripping down.
A theory we talked about is that the valve springs and retainers definitely don't look stock, in your opinion, do you think that if the springs are too strong that it would lead to the kind of damage that we see on the cam lobes?
Also it seemed odd that the first orifice from the oil feed were the journals that were damaged, the inner journals further away from the feed are fine. Any ideas of what might be happening?
All that shrapnel in the last pics was inside the oil pick up only stopped by the gauze, likely restricting oil demand, but doesn't explain why the outer journals are goosed and the inner ones fine though they are on the same line, and all four are the same. The head and cylinder block/pistons all look new to me.
For sure someone has spent a great deal of cash on this bike at some time.
So We Are Taking the Engine Out
So We Are Taking the Engine Out
We decided that this motor really needs to be stripped down to check that all the metal bits that have been left in there by the PO are now out and that there is no damage to other parts of the internals. So the motor needs to come out of the frame. A much easier job to do when the head and cylinders are off:
Done (with some help).
Greetings
So We Are Taking the Engine Out
We decided that this motor really needs to be stripped down to check that all the metal bits that have been left in there by the PO are now out and that there is no damage to other parts of the internals. So the motor needs to come out of the frame. A much easier job to do when the head and cylinders are off:
Done (with some help).
Greetings
And I was looking forward to another 2 hour video of the struggle of the engine removal Richard!
Two points - you need to get your daughter some safety boots for manhandling engines and get rid of that 'sold' sticker on the screen; you're in this far so looks like it's a keeper.
Two points - you need to get your daughter some safety boots for manhandling engines and get rid of that 'sold' sticker on the screen; you're in this far so looks like it's a keeper.
I wasn't going to mention the "Health and Safety " thing, but you are getting the hang of this engine removal.
cg
Engine Strip - Preparation
Engine Strip - Preparation
So I have decided to strip the engine and find out how much damage there really is inside. In for a penny (cent) in for a pound (dollar).
See My Blog - Suzuki GS1150ES - Engine Strip Preparation lots more hi-res pics there.
So here we go. Don't forget this little nut under the sprocket:
Top bolts out first:
Pistons 1 and 4 need to come off to get the crank out:
Then get the clutch off:
Along with other parts in this motor, I have an APE clutch nut:
I got the rotor nut off with my new power impact driver
But even with the correct tool it wouldn't come off.
Greetings
Engine Strip - Preparation
So I have decided to strip the engine and find out how much damage there really is inside. In for a penny (cent) in for a pound (dollar).
See My Blog - Suzuki GS1150ES - Engine Strip Preparation lots more hi-res pics there.
So here we go. Don't forget this little nut under the sprocket:
Top bolts out first:
Pistons 1 and 4 need to come off to get the crank out:
Then get the clutch off:
Along with other parts in this motor, I have an APE clutch nut:
I got the rotor nut off with my new power impact driver
But even with the correct tool it wouldn't come off.
Greetings
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Engine Strip - Preparation
Engine Strip - Preparation
I had a couple of problems with bolts on the cases. One got rounded off and the other snapped.
See My GS1150 Blog - Getting the Cases Apart
I rounded this bolt off completely:
I was using this socket and it was too wide and close to the casing to sit correctly on the bolt head:
And I snapped another one using my power impact driver:
Greetings
Engine Strip - Preparation
I had a couple of problems with bolts on the cases. One got rounded off and the other snapped.
See My GS1150 Blog - Getting the Cases Apart
I rounded this bolt off completely:
I was using this socket and it was too wide and close to the casing to sit correctly on the bolt head:
And I snapped another one using my power impact driver:
Greetings
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