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Hole in SS lines..=/

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Hey all. Well I finally got to riding the wheels around for about a week. But I started to notice the calibers were sticking, again. So I checked over all the bajo bolts nd fittings. I saw a little bit of brake fluid gathering under my left banjo bolt on the floor, so I checked it out. I pulled the brake lever, and the puddle gets a little bigger. Lucky me found a hole in the SS lines about halfway up where there is nothing interacting with it. Fluid squirts out in a nice stream untill the lever is released. At least I know the MC works fine.. They are practically brand new about 1 month old and only <50miles on them...
I highly doubt it, but is there a way to "repair" them? I know it's risky business with brakes and you always wanna be sure their in 100% working condition. But in order to ship them to CA from Pa, go through processing, ship them back, that gonna be 2.5 weeks out of riding...
Any tips tricks or ANYTHING is welcomed.

Kev
 
No way to repair. Could you use a stock line temporary whilst you wait for it to come back?

What length do you need? I may have a rubber line I can throw in an envelope....

Dan :)
 
I have the old ones still around. I need to take off both sides then cause of that splitter halfway down since one of the rubbers aren't long enough. Not to complain, but I'm just tired with problem after problem.

Kev
 
Yes, or find a longer rubber one... If you went direct from MC to caliper you'll find a stock rear one will be approx the right length with no splitter.....

Dan :)
 
Any idea what caused the hole?
Defective, punctured, kinked?
Animals chew into it?
I have not heard of this happening before.
 
I'm thinking the only thing it could be was either
-defective from the start. Cause that's just my luck.
-Or kinked while installing, But I ordered an adjustable banjo on one end for both lines. And I was making sure not to kink it up.

I'm hoping Earls will work with me on this. They seem to be very good on customer service since shipping cross country will take a little while.

Kev

(P.S.- It feels kinda good in a bad way to actually stump someone so knowlegable =])
 
I can't see anything puncturing the stainless braided sleeve, and the inner core, at least not that cleanly, without it being malicious. If it's not leaking all the time, just when you pull the lever, then the hole is precise enough to seal itself. If the internal liner was shot, it would squirt against the steel braiding, and just soak through, making it a slow seep. If it's spraying a stream, that means both the braid and inner core were puncture, probably at the same time, in the same place, with something sharp enough to leave a hole clean enough to reseal itself after pressure is released, and I'm not seeing that happening without some sort of outside interference. Is the bike garaged at all times? Does anyone have access to the bike that might do this, accidentally, or otherwise?

Or, it may just have been defective.

Occam's Razor favors the latter.
 
coolspt dude, must be defective. i've had ss on my front (stock on rear - I cheaped out too I guess, but no problems knock on my wooden hear) for almost 20 years. 20. Zero problems. And that's through change over to silicone DOT 5 when that was in vogue and back to DOT 4 ethelyne glycol when silicone became taboo [i must say, dot4 eth glycol has a MUCH more positive feel and braking action].

You'd have to be the Hulk to kink while installing. Not betting on that one.

50 miles on them? I would be on the phone to return/replace.
 
Was the line commercially manufactured or did you make it yourself?
 
I am fully ready to get flamed for this but here it goes. I have this same problem with a ss brake line on my drag car. 70 nova ss. Aluminum 540 big block. And so on. Anyways. No chute on he back so I have to stop with my brakes alone. I must have kicked up a stone or something because I put a tremendouse hole in it. Anyways jb weld and a hose clamp around it lasted 3 years on a hose that had almost a dime sized hole in it. So I'm sure it would work for a pin hole. Won't be pretty. But its safe
 
piester said:
I am fully ready to get flamed for this but here it goes. I have this same problem with a ss brake line on my drag car. 70 nova ss. Aluminum 540 big block. And so on. Anyways. No chute on he back so I have to stop with my brakes alone. I must have kicked up a stone or something because I put a tremendouse hole in it. Anyways jb weld and a hose clamp around it lasted 3 years on a hose that had almost a dime sized hole in it. So I'm sure it would work for a pin hole. Won't be pretty. But its safe
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Dude, I admire your ingenuity and all, but would you really do that on a front brake on a bike to be ridden in traffic, just to save the few bucks it would take to return it to the seller?

The other side is, the manufacturer needs to know there is a problem with their product before they kill someone. Not everyone notices things like this before they ride. There is perhaps a problem in their shipping department or something, someone using a box knife to open a package or something like that somewhere along the line.
 
piester said:
I am fully ready to get flamed for this but here it goes. I have this same problem with a ss brake line on my drag car. 70 nova ss. Aluminum 540 big block. And so on. Anyways. No chute on he back so I have to stop with my brakes alone. I must have kicked up a stone or something because I put a tremendouse hole in it. Anyways jb weld and a hose clamp around it lasted 3 years on a hose that had almost a dime sized hole in it. So I'm sure it would work for a pin hole. Won't be pretty. But its safe
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:eek: thats too spooky for me, replace the line..
 
The bike is in the garage with no fury friends running around or anything like that. if you saw the hose, you would think...why is it off the motorcycle? I bought the hose and fittings from Earls and installed it myself. I'm no USAF aircraft mechanic, but I'm pretty sure im good enough to fix up some brakes. And thanks for the idea piester, but I'm gonna have to go with ken on this and rather pay <$10 shipping rather then $$$$$$$$$ for hospital bills.
I am worried about them not believing it when I ship it back. Cause I can imagine it doesn't happen often.
Well I'm back out to the garage to bleed these f'in old lines. What a son of a gun process it is.

Kev
 
piester said:
I am fully ready to get flamed for this but here it goes. I have this same problem with a ss brake line on my drag car. 70 nova ss. Aluminum 540 big block. And so on. Anyways. No chute on he back so I have to stop with my brakes alone. I must have kicked up a stone or something because I put a tremendouse hole in it. Anyways jb weld and a hose clamp around it lasted 3 years on a hose that had almost a dime sized hole in it. So I'm sure it would work for a pin hole. Won't be pretty. But its safe
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Why in god's name would you take that sort of a risk on a part that costs a few bucks? :eek: The risk/reward ratio is so far to one side it baffles me why someone would even contemplate it, let alone do it.

I was running sub 13's with my big block Impala (gutted) and I'm sure you're quicker. Why dude?
 
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astounded

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Wow. I once split a ss brake line wilst racing at a MRA event at 2nd Creek , sucking it down from a buck+ to a WIDE 45mph corner. somehow managed to thead the needle of tire bales & broadside the last set uprite w/minimal damage.remembering the lever coming to bar for 2-3 strokes and rear end dancing still leave me queezy.the concept of hose clamps and JBweld leave me cold. Safe? no way!! not even on a drag car w/propotioning valve. Even speedway bikes w/no brakes at all are safer. i may be chicken@%$#, But, I'm also pushin 60 and still riding w/all limbs functioning. g
 
So the hose has a hole half way between two bolt on hose ends? If so, the line must have been defective. This is extremely rare with Earl's brake line. The hose itself is only $3/foot so if it were me I'd look for some local place that sells Earl's hose in your area so you can get back on the road. Based on your comments about CA, did you order from AN Plumbing?
 
Well, I am back on the raod with the old lines. But I still need that satisfaction of not being beat by these SS. So I think I'm going to ship them back to CA (AN plumbing) since time doesn't matter to much now. Hopefully I can get them back and bleed before the end of the season.

Kev
 
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