A million years ago, I pulled the bottom half of the crankcase on mine (1100ED) to reseal it.
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Hours to split case?
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This is not the leaking motor but the leak as I recall is coming from between the cases under that eyelet.
E43A5A9E-C78A-4907-AE0A-1479538D32ED by Gary L, on Flickr
E43A5A9E-C78A-4907-AE0A-1479538D32ED by Gary L, on Flickr
Just sayin'... it's very verrrrrrrrrrry common for oil from further up to make its way to that eyelet or some other projection and then drip from there. Has someone done the ol' foot powder trick to verify the actual source of the leak?
Of course, it's also common for hamfisted wrench holders to gouge the cases in that area trying to pry the halves apart with a screwdriver (as specifically forbidden in the manual...).
If someone else has been in there already and caused this leak, then you'll need to factor in some unknown amount of time for dealing with various pecker tracks like this; it's doubtful this is the only damage.
Nothing about this project so far leads me to believe it would ever be profitable. Sure, it's all very do-able and fixable, but it's going to take an unknown amount of time, and quite a bit of skill. It's certainly the sort of thing I would help a friend with over the course of several evenings, but not something I would want to take responsibility for (for example, if it still leaks afterwards, are you on the hook to take it apart and try again?).
If you can come to some sort of agreement about who's responsible for what if and when things don't go well, and you don't mind potentially going way over the hours allocated as a learning experience, and the owner isn't in a hurry, then maybe you can pick up a few extra bucks and learn a thing or three in the process.
Of course, it's also common for hamfisted wrench holders to gouge the cases in that area trying to pry the halves apart with a screwdriver (as specifically forbidden in the manual...).
If someone else has been in there already and caused this leak, then you'll need to factor in some unknown amount of time for dealing with various pecker tracks like this; it's doubtful this is the only damage.
Nothing about this project so far leads me to believe it would ever be profitable. Sure, it's all very do-able and fixable, but it's going to take an unknown amount of time, and quite a bit of skill. It's certainly the sort of thing I would help a friend with over the course of several evenings, but not something I would want to take responsibility for (for example, if it still leaks afterwards, are you on the hook to take it apart and try again?).
If you can come to some sort of agreement about who's responsible for what if and when things don't go well, and you don't mind potentially going way over the hours allocated as a learning experience, and the owner isn't in a hurry, then maybe you can pick up a few extra bucks and learn a thing or three in the process.
I agree with Brian. Despite your best estimate on the repair time you can plan on multiplying that by 2.5 to get the REAL time it will take.
I had an 850 that leaked oil off one of the big 8mm crankcase screws that held the cases together under the crankshaft. Didn't want to split the cases just for that so I put a copper washer under the bolt head and the leak stopped. I figure that oil was getting between the case halves and running down that one bolt. So guess what I'm saying is that crankcase leaks do happen from time to time.
The other thing regarding a project like this is a question of how good is the engine overall? Just me maybe but if I'm going through the work to split the cases I'd just as well do a full engine teardown and replace all the gaskets and seals at the same time. That way there is nothing else that will be leaking in, at least, the near future.
I had an 850 that leaked oil off one of the big 8mm crankcase screws that held the cases together under the crankshaft. Didn't want to split the cases just for that so I put a copper washer under the bolt head and the leak stopped. I figure that oil was getting between the case halves and running down that one bolt. So guess what I'm saying is that crankcase leaks do happen from time to time.
The other thing regarding a project like this is a question of how good is the engine overall? Just me maybe but if I'm going through the work to split the cases I'd just as well do a full engine teardown and replace all the gaskets and seals at the same time. That way there is nothing else that will be leaking in, at least, the near future.
...and no reason to have GS Resources either right? They are just old POS bikes not worth saving eh?
PS: I think we have had this conversation before...
PS2: I could have bought a nice modern bike for the money I spent on my KZ...but I don't care.
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Could have bought a couple for the what I've put into my stock original GS1000 over the years. Oh wait ...... I did and the one that I've kept is the old GS.
I spent a lot of time trying to identify the exact location of the leak though I don't know why it would start leaking from between the cases, it is and I bought the bike that way.
Looked like this when I bought it:
Blue at time of purchase by Gary L, on Flickr
Looked like this when I sold it:
IMG_1997 by Gary L, on Flickr
I offered to buy it for $400 since I know the current owner bought it for $600-800 and now it's in worse shape but he said he likes it and wants to fix it. So I checked with a local shop owner I met on a ride and he quoted $1200. I passed that on to the owner of the bike and told him that if he still had it after the riding season I may do it for $800. If I made $800 doing this it would be far and away the most I've made on any GS. I currently have another ED that I really want to put together nicely but then I'll have to get $2,200 -$2,500 to break even on parts. I digress...
Looked like this when I bought it:
Blue at time of purchase by Gary L, on FlickrLooked like this when I sold it:
IMG_1997 by Gary L, on FlickrI offered to buy it for $400 since I know the current owner bought it for $600-800 and now it's in worse shape but he said he likes it and wants to fix it. So I checked with a local shop owner I met on a ride and he quoted $1200. I passed that on to the owner of the bike and told him that if he still had it after the riding season I may do it for $800. If I made $800 doing this it would be far and away the most I've made on any GS. I currently have another ED that I really want to put together nicely but then I'll have to get $2,200 -$2,500 to break even on parts. I digress...
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