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hub spline blues

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just tore the rear wheel off my 82gs1100gk to check the splines and i was disgusted with what i found.lets just say there is more off the teeth missing then what is there..:mad: other than paying 121 plus shipping from bike bandit is there any one who can help me out or tell me what years will work so i can search fleabay..if i cant find one at a decent price the bike will be sitting in the shop for the riding season because of lack of funds being my wife was layed off and were on just my piddly income now lol thanks to david patterson our great ny gov. lol please any help would be appreciated. Thank you... Pat
 
All of the shaft GS shaft drives use the same adapter You can even use the later ones From a VX800 ????
 
just tore the rear wheel off my 82gs1100gk to check the splines and i was disgusted with what i found.lets just say there is more off the teeth missing then what is there..:mad: other than paying 121 plus shipping from bike bandit is there any one who can help me out or tell me what years will work so i can search fleabay..if i cant find one at a decent price the bike will be sitting in the shop for the riding season because of lack of funds being my wife was layed off and were on just my piddly income now lol thanks to david patterson our great ny gov. lol please any help would be appreciated. Thank you... Pat

You guys are killing me!....I had my spare spline listed cheap for weeks on the forum "For Sale - Parts" and no takers....and now 3 of you are suddenly in need. Sorry, but I let mine go for less than half price of a new one to help a fellow forum user yesterday! I guess timing is everything.
Try here for a new one:
http://www.oneidasuzuki.com/store/parts-accessories/rear-wheel-vl800-c50.html

I can't vouch for the site, just passing on info from another user, but the VL800 C50 part # matches what's listed for the older GS1100G, but cheaper $.
 
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just tore the rear wheel off my 82gs1100gk to check the splines and i was disgusted with what i found.lets just say there is more off the teeth missing then what is there..:mad: other than paying 121 plus shipping from bike bandit is there any one who can help me out or tell me what years will work so i can search fleabay..if i cant find one at a decent price the bike will be sitting in the shop for the riding season because of lack of funds being my wife was layed off and were on just my piddly income now lol thanks to david patterson our great ny gov. lol please any help would be appreciated. Thank you... Pat

Pat, on my last GS, an 1100GK, I ran a spline set from 1979 GS850G. They're all interchangeable.

Go to eBay and see if you can find a rear wheel for an early GS850G or GS1000G. Chances are the wheel has the spline set already in the hub. Buy the entire wheel and use it as a spare, and you'll have the old-style spline set that lasts forever.
 
will a spline from a 1985 Suzuki GV1200 or a 1992 Suzuki VS800. fit my 1100?
 
thanks lynn, lurch for you input. and grandpa thats a great idea thank you ill go searching
 
I have a spare spline from a 1981 GS1000GL that looks good. Shoot me a PM if interested and we can work out details.

Ed
 
Hi,

According to Babbit's online parts reference, even the early '80s GS650G and GL use the same spline gear. Original part number is 64680-45112. The updated part number is 64680-45113.

Also the GV1200GLG/GLF/etc, the VL800, VS800, and VZ800 use this part.

Just put a part number into the "Quick Parts Lookup", choose the brand, hit the 'Quick Look Up' button, and it tells you all the bikes that use the part.

http://www.babbittsonline.com/pages/parts/home.aspx


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
Go to eBay and see if you can find a rear wheel for an early GS850G or GS1000G. Chances are the wheel has the spline set already in the hub. Buy the entire wheel and use it as a spare, and you'll have the old-style spline set that lasts forever.

I understand the "newer" gold colored splines are made from a material that doesn't wear as well as the "earlier" black ones. What year did they switch over?

Thanks,

mike
 
I understand the "newer" gold colored splines are made from a material that doesn't wear as well as the "earlier" black ones. What year did they switch over?

Thanks,

mike

For certain, the black spline set came stock on the 1979 GS850G, the first shaft-driven Suzuki. Same unit came on the 1980 GS850G and GS1000G.

Brian Wringer says that some 1981 GS850G's and GS1000G's came with the gold-colored splines. Not sure what the breaking point is on the bikes' serial numbers.

For certain, the 1982 GS850G had the bad splines. I know from personal experience, as my first GS bike was an 82 850G.
 
Hi,

As I understand it, the lighter color metal from around '82-'83 was inferior. The newer parts are harder, even though they are the same color.


Thank you for your indulgence,

BassCliff
 
will a spline from a 1985 Suzuki GV1200 or a 1992 Suzuki VS800. fit my 1100?
The GV1200 one should.
Note: I've heard of GV1200s with GS final drives. The whole GV1200 final drive will not fit on a GS because it doesn't have shock mounts.
 
Grandpa Quote:For certain, the black spline set came stock on the 1979 GS850G, the first shaft-driven Suzuki. Same unit came on the 1980 GS850G and GS1000G.
Brian Wringer says that some 1981 GS850G's and GS1000G's came with the gold-colored splines. Not sure what the breaking point is on the bikes' serial numbers.
For certain, the 1982 GS850G had the bad splines. I know from personal experience, as my first GS bike was an 82 850G.

Brian and I have discussed this a few times and I think Granpa and Cliff are correct that the cut off point was sometime in 81 for the gold splines. All the new OEM replacement splines are a superceded number and a silver color and are also good per Brian. The older black ones are the best, the silver ones are very good, and the gold ones are the weakest splines of the three. I just pulled my 82 splines with 17 K and they are in excellent condition. I think the gold are not as good as the others but most of the splines go bad because of poor or infrequent lubrication. I also do not do burnouts or wheelies which will burn up splines no matter what color. Brian will correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure that is what he said.
 
Thank you all for your quick responses and i will continue searching.

Pat
 
I assume these are gold type - bike was a 1981 GS1000GL.

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Thank you all for your quick responses and i will continue searching.

Pat

Just a word of advice. See if you can get a closeup pic of the spline if it's a used item! I posted a closeup pic of the spline I sold, so there was no confusion on what color of the metal or condition of the teeth. No sense in bidding $50 on potential junk. If you buy the whole wheel I can personally say that the '80 G and earlier will be good quality metal and the teeth are probably good as new. Maybe someone on the forum who might be local can check out an e-bay item for any interested parties here. I hate to see anyone get stuck with just a spare rear rim and a worthless spline.
 
I assume these are gold type - bike was a 1981 GS1000GL.

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Not so sure about that, Ed ... could be that this is an "already replaced" newer spline on the '81, because that sure DOESN'T look like the gold tinged spline that failed on my '83 1100G, and if it were the charcoal/black one you'd know for sure it was a good one.

If I had to guess I'd say that is NOT one of the bad ones, but even if it is you've still got a lot of miles worth of reliable riding with proper lubrication there ... that is unless the scoring I see on the edges is actually wear all the way along each spline - hard to tell from the pics.

Regards,
 
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