I Don't Know What The Story Is . But It's Got To Be A Good One .

[argonsagas]

Toronto had an odd one last week , but without the same health outcome.

I saw and heard reports of the rider speeding, which seems very likely, but how he hit was bad.
Riding on a road equipped with embedded steel rails for streetcars and during rain, he appeared to have lost it on the rails and went across the centre line as the bike went down. The bike hit the front of a stopped SUV hard and self-destructed. It bounced off to the right side of the road, stopping between parked cars. The rider, already being down, went almost completely under the SUV, and died there.

It's that season here again: no experience for five or six months, then that irresistible urge to use speed.

Roncesvalles and Howard Park

Rider trapped under vehicle succumbed to his injuries. RIP https://toronto.citynews.ca/2026/05/05/motorcyclist-dies-in-crash-with-vehicle-in-roncesvalles/

www.gtamotorcycle.com

 

[bccap]

It's beyond my skill set but I'm sure someone could do a speed calculation from the video . I'm thinking some serious speed may have been involved. Based on the brake stand launch and the amount of force it would take to launch the bike that high once it landed on the hood and started it's slide up the windshield .....

 

[dpep]

Yeah, it makes sense now. The rider flew over the top of the car and it was the bike that did the somersault. A picture from a different angle shows the impact was not on the front but on the side of the car--very front of fender or maybe the tire.

I am still hazy on the forces that would have sent that much weight that vertically straight up that high. My guess is the bike flips over and the rear tire comes onto the windshield. Mass times velocity compresses tire and suspension with enough force to launch bike skyward on the rebound. Strictly a guess.

 

[bccap]

It's possible doing things wrong may have saved the rider's life. Had his instincts to brake involved using both brakes he would have slid at speed into the vehicle . Hitting the front brake first launched him over the vehicle where the road would decelerate his impact by him sliding or bouncing along it ..... As opposed to " Wham " human being hits solid immovable object .....

 

[rphillips]

I apologize for the question. I hate not understanding this new stuff but I've never done any of those front wheel wheel stands before!!! Using both brakes he would have slid at speed into the vehicle. It'd seem when the front gripped enough to raise the rear wheel, it would raise it the same weather the rear wheel was turning or not turning. This new modern stuff always amazes me.

 

[dpep]

It's possible doing things wrong may have saved the rider's life. Had his instincts to brake involved using both brakes he would have slid at speed into the vehicle . Hitting the front brake first launched him over the vehicle where the road would decelerate his impact by him sliding or bouncing along it ..... As opposed to " Wham " human being hits solid immovable object .....

What launched him would not have been his braking. It was his inertia. He essentially kept flying through the air after his motorcycle had been rudely stripped from beneath him.

I think his survivability more depended upon where on the car the bike made impact. If it is at the hood area, whether side or front, a rider is highly likely to go onto or over the hood avoiding for his body a vertical barrier and the instant deceleration that goes with it. But if the crash is in the door area, bike and body have their forward progress terminated together, instantly, against a metal wall.

Hood is better.

 

[dgates1]

Dang'it don't get me wrong, I'm sure not asking anybody to be as skeptical as me. But those news channels you put in there didn't take any of the videos, if they had they'd have and shown videos of people getting out of their cars to assist the rider, police cars speeding in, ambulances, folks walking around, looking, and pointing up at the bike, but none of that is there. No, those news channels didn't hire a crane, they all just showed a video that was handed to them by somebody else. I had no clue they could freeze the motion of a bike standing on it's front wheel, centered in a video, while everything else in the video kept moving as normal. that's amazing... Wonder if those folks or the new AI folks could take a picture of a motorcycle, from someplace else, and make it look like it was hanging on a light pole? That'd be amazing too, wouldn't it?... Like said, not say'in it didn't happen, but sure seems to be quite a bit of stuff we're not see'in.

This was traffic cam footage.

 

[bccap]

What launched him would not have been his braking. It was his inertia. He essentially kept flying through the air after his motorcycle had been rudely stripped from beneath him.

I think his survivability more depended upon where on the car the bike made impact. If it is at the hood area, whether side or front, a rider is highly likely to go onto or over the hood avoiding for his body a vertical barrier and the instant deceleration that goes with it. But if the crash is in the door area, bike and body have their forward progress terminated together, instantly, against a metal wall.

Hood is better.

We're all just speculating here . But there are loads of videos describing what happens during a panic stop on a motorcycle. And I can personally remember a few incidents in my youth on a bicycle where I got launched over the handlebars due to using the front brake only . The consensus among the videos I watched was that if you brake using both brakes the bike will skid . At some point the back will swing out . If you let go of the rear brake to stop that you will high side as the bike will launch you upward and forward and the bike will now be behind you chasing you . ... If you continue doing things correctly you will low side which is what you want. Either way you are going down.... In most cases you would want to low side but not in this one ..... I think when the authorities finish analyzing the video they are going to find excessive speed .....

Looking at the first few seconds of the video and freezing it as soon as you see the bike do it's brake stand you can see what likely happened . The bike stopped roughly a car length and a half in front of the vehicle . The back of the motorcycle tried to overtake the now motionless front end rising and launching the rider . { the only way he goes over the car is if there is a force propelling him upward and onward } ...... Brake incorrectly and he's alive with road rash .... Brake correctly and he low sides into the car ...... And as you said " their forward progress terminated together, instantly, against a metal wall. " .......

 

[rphillips]

This keeps getting stranger & stranger, The bike stopped roughly a car length and a half in front of the vehicle

 

[bccap]

This keeps getting stranger & stranger, The bike stopped roughly a car length and a half in front of the vehicle

Okay I worded that poorly . The " front end of the bike stopped " the back end kept going ..... And once the back end overtook the front end of the bike . Both bike and rider were airborne ..... Didn't you ever slam on your front brake when you were riding a bicycle as a kid ?

 

[rphillips]

OOhhh, back in the day. That was a game back then, grabbing front brake and back wheel coming way up, but luckily I never went all the way over.... Don't remember if we were applying rear brake or not, nor if it would have made a difference.

 

[bren]

wow that's crazy
rider is lucky to be alive
he was going insanely fast
"I think when the authorities finish analyzing the video they are going to find excessive speed ....." yea to put it mildly !!