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keyless (not remote) starting

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detorn

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I saw a hack on another site when people were using thier kill switch as an ignition-on/off switch. eliminating the need for a key.

has anyone here done this?
how hard is it?
how is it done?
what should I look out for if I try it?


ty in advance
 
You would have to do a considerable amount of re-wiring, but yeah, it's possible.

Is it worth it? That would depend on what you are trying to acheive.

You could also use one of those key fob things like the new cars have. Then you could replace the key with a switch, but you will still have a considerable amount of re-wiring to do.

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but you would still need a keyswitch somewhere to isolate the kill switch surely?
otherwise it would be just to easy to steal.........
 
key fob wouldn't help the problem I'm trying to solve which is not having to depend on me carrying and/or not losing a key. would really like to just have a toggle switch that replaces it.

if its too hard its too hard tho... I'll pick up an extra key set and some key blanks just in case...lol
 
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Agemax said:
but you would still need a keyswitch somewhere to isolate the kill switch surely?
otherwise it would be just to easy to steal.........
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not worried about theft... who would know the ignition was a dummy? security by obscurity
 
detorn said:
not worried about theft... who would know the ignition was a dummy? security by obscurity
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tire kickers and switch flickers will soon find out.
plus wouldnt your insurance be invalid without a secure means of immobilising the bike?

i have remote ignition on my bike, small key fob to switch ignition on and off. remote start and alarm all built in. confuses the hell out of people when they ask how i turn it on......:-\\\
 
detorn said:
key fob wouldn't help the problem I'm trying to solve which is not having to depend on me carrying and/or not losing a key. would really like to just have a toggle switch that replaces it.
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Do you carry a house key? Not afraid of losing it? Put the key fob on the same ring as the house key.

You don't have to do anything with the fob, it only has to be within about six feet of the bike when you flip your toggle switch.
The fob will "wake up" the system, the toggle switch will make it "active".

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more often than not I do not carry a house key, but thats not the point :) if it can't be done it can't be done, I'll deal with the key. was just satisfying my curiosity.
 
If you want to install a simple toggle switch the easiest way to wire it is to locate your red constant hot wire install a 15 amp on/off switch. This will be your new igition switch. Cut and strip back the four wires coming out of your ignition crimp or solder all four together. Locate your toggle switch under your tank or somewhere else out of sight. I personallywouldn't do this but I hope this helps.
 
detorn said:
more often than not I do not carry a house key, but thats not the point :)
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I was just trying to determine whether there was something that you always carried with you.


detorn said:
if it can't be done it can't be done, I'll deal with the key. was just satisfying my curiosity.
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Oh, it can be done, the question is how much effort do you want to put into the project?

Selzer just gave one option. Not sure if it would be quite that easy, as the stock ignition switch wiring is actually several separate circuits that will join in different ways, depending on the position of the switch.

As I mentioned before, it's possible, but any way you go about it, there WILL be some re-wiring.

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Why don't you take the barrel apart & remove all the key splines. You should then be able to turn it on with any key / screwdriver etc & remove whatever you turned it on with after....

The other way would be to leave the switch on permanently & install a toggle in the main battery run (have to be big enough to cope with the power though).
 
I just leave my key in the bike at home and stick it in my pocket when i am out somewhere.

I guess the cheapest alternative to do what you are wanting is to find a black lid (like off a wd40 can) that will fit tight over the key and ignition area. Then maybe no one would see the key in the bike when unattended.
 
I've seen some RFID systems installed on a couple of cb750/900/1100 F models from the early 80's. One guy even has the RFID chip implanted in his wrist or hand (can't remember). Not sure if you want to do that, but I will try to find the thread on the CB forum.
When he wanted to start the bike, all he had to do was waive his wrist a few inches from the receiver installed on his bike. To shut it down he would just waive it by the receiver again. He always had his "key" with him and there is no way he could ever forget it at home or lose it out on the town.
 
salty_monk said:
Why don't you take the barrel apart & remove all the key splines. You should then be able to turn it on with any key / screwdriver etc & remove whatever you turned it on with after....
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This is your easiest way to seem stock and still get the functionality you want. Just have to keep a penny on you or just pick up a rock that will fit in the slot and let you rotate the assembly.

The assemble is not hare to take the guts out but it does require the original key to turn it half way between positions so that you can pull it out to take the locks out.

All you do is leave the last lock in place so it keeps the tumbler in place.
 
My DR 450 has no key. Just a little rocker switch somewhere near the steering head. No one has stolen it yet. Probably because it's covered with mud.
 
Convert the kill switch to operate a relay which powers up the bike.
 
Not to rag on the OP, but am I the only one who gets a chuckle out of the fact that someone has the responsibility, maturity, skill, and desire to ride a two wheel "death" machine but can't handle keys? How a grown person can get away with rarely carrying even a house key is beyond me.
 
Those of us who have no need for locking our doors have no need to carry keys as well.
 
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