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Need help - carb kits

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Hello everyone... anyone know the best place to order carb kits for my 1980 GS650l?
 
You don't need carb kits to do a rebuild. Just order an O-ring kit from http://cycleorings.com/#BS_Series_O-ring_Kit and maybe some float bowl gaskets from Z1 http://www.z1enterprises.com/catalog.aspx?pid=GS650GLX-1981-CF0

And don't forget the intake boot O-rings from cycleorings, they are sure to leak unless they have been replaced lately.

The factory jets rarely wear, just break down the carbs fully and go through them http://www.thegsresources.com/gs_carbrebuild.htm

If you get stuck, ask for help.

Good luck and welcome.
 
what nessism said, thats the common opinion here
unless you want to go with different sizes jets?
 
listen to these guys they know what they are talking about.

Cory
 
Nessism said:
You don't need carb kits to do a rebuild.
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Theoretically that is correct but in my case once I got the carbs apart I found that I had two broken Pilot Fuel Screws, and they are only (as far as I can find out) available as part of the carb rebuild kit. Bought mine from Z1 and they are GREAT.

gbw
 
preacherman said:
many thanks! that will save me a lot of work!
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AND a lot of money. 8-[

Most carb kits will be $15-20 each. You need four, so $60-80 for all. The o-ring kit from cycleorings AND the intake tube o-rings (that are not included with the "kits") only total about $20 and include far more o-rings than the kits.

However, as GBW mentioned, sometimes you will get into the carbs and find that you need some hardware. Put a message on the board, sometimes one of us will have extra stuff, otherwise you will have to resort to a purchase from Z1 or another supplier.

.
 
Re: Suzuki Carb Kits

Re: Suzuki Carb Kits

I recommed George Fix on Ebay, and on this GSR website. His GS
carb kits are complete, excellent quality, inexpensive, and with
immediate shipment to your door.

I've bought these small individual O-rings (and gaskets) from another
party, and it is not worth it. If you rebuild a carb set, do it right with
a complete kit. No hassles with going here and there for individual
parts you would have in the first place with a complete kit. The gas
and your time saved is more valuable with a complete kit. It makes
perfect sense to do so.

There are many aftermarket carb kits that are Chinese junk. Stay
away from these !! Go with George Fix, he'll always do you right.
George has sent me gaskets in lightning speed, and his quality is
always unsurpassed, and second to none.

\\:D/
 
Carb kits typically do not contain all the o-rings needed - such as those on the interconnecting tubes between the carbs. Also, they use knock-off jets, not the real Mikuni parts. I'm not against carb kits per say, only that you need to check the parts carefully against the origionals and (my opinion) use the stock brass jets where possible.
 
Hey fellas, while we're on the topic I've got all my new bits (o-rings, bowl gaskets, idle jet (forget the real name) rubber plugs) and I'm ready to rebuild but short on time. I don't want to rush, and I'm trying to figure if I need to wait until next weekend.

Anyone have an estimate on how long it'll take me to run through the process in the GSR Carb cleaning series, re-assemble, bench sync, and re-install?

Edit: Oh duh, Pilot Jet - it's earlier in the thread.
 
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It takes me about two hours from ride in to ride out (not counting carb dip soaking time), but I pretty much know what I'm doing.

Do NOT rush ANYTHING in the process, especially if you haven't done it before.

What with soak time and all, plan on the bike being out of action for at least two days. You could probably do it in one long day (remove/disassemble/soak in the AM, reassemble in the PM) if the carbs aren't too grody.

You can also get most, if not all, of the small parts you might need from Cycle Recycle II. If you don't see it on their web site, CALL THEM. The web site shows only a tiny fraction of the stuff they have, and none of the used parts: http://crc2onlinecatalog.com

I've never seen one carb rebuild kit that was worth the energy to carry to a trash can. Some opinions will vary, and some people might equivocate, but my opinion is that they are JUNK. All of them -- even the ones CRC2 sells. This opinion was earned the hard way, too. Repeatedly.

O-rings and maybe bowl gaskets are all you need most of the time. If something is broken or damaged, get a new one from Suzuki or from a seller of genuine Mikuni parts. Don't fart around with aftermarket junk.
 
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bwringer said:
It takes me about two hours from ride in to ride out (not counting carb dip soaking time), but I pretty much know what I'm doing.

Do NOT rush ANYTHING in the process, especially if you haven't done it before.

What with soak time and all, plan on the bike being out of action for at least two days. You could probably do it in one long day (remove/disassemble/soak in the AM, reassemble in the PM) if the carbs aren't too grody.

You can also get most, if not all, of the small parts you might need from Cycle Recycle II. If you don't see it on their web site, CALL THEM. The web site shows only a tiny fraction of the stuff they have, and none of the used parts: http://crc2onlinecatalog.com

I've never seen one carb rebuild kit that was worth the energy to carry to a trash can. Some opinions will vary, and some people might equivocate, but my opinion is that they are JUNK. All of them -- even the ones CRC2 sells. This opinion was earned the hard way, too. Repeatedly.

O-rings and maybe bowl gaskets are all you need most of the time. If something is broken or damaged, get a new one from Suzuki or from a seller of genuine Mikuni parts. Don't fart around with aftermarket junk.
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Perfect - that's exactly what I needed to know. 2hrs for you means 8hrs for me, and that means I'm waiting till next weekend, which is wide open.

I can disassemble and start soaking Friday night, finish soaking/clean Sat AM, reassemble/bench sync Sat afternoon, and hopefully show up at my friend's shop all warmed up and ready to sync that evening. I'm paranoid about stripping those tiny brass parts - I don't want to get stuck waiting a week for a new jet!

How about drain gaskets for the float bowls - is that only certain models?
 
Roostabunny said:
How about drain gaskets for the float bowls - is that only certain models?
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if you re referring to the drain plugs (screws) some have gaskets (washers) some have o rings
in either case they are reusable unless broken
 
justmount1 said:
gbw i don't know how far bartlett is from rock falls but there is a suzuki shop here that u can order just seperate jets www.giesonmotorsports.com
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Thanks. Bartlett is a 'burb of Chicago. Rock Falls is about 2 hours from here.

I tried to go thru one of the local Suzuki shops but since there is no part number for the pilot fuel screws he couldn't help. Told me that the screws came as part of the carb body assembly and were not sold separately.

I thought I was going to have to buy a whole rack of carbs just to get the two screws. Then, lo and behold, my box from Z1 shows up and in it is the one carb rebuilt kit I bought "just in case" and the screw is in there!

I ordered a few more kits and they showed up yesterday. If all goes well I'll get the carbs put back together tomorrow. Can't wait.

Thanks again.

gbw
 
In regards to your carb cleaning project, select wisely the parts dip basket you will purchase. Shop around and ask questions at auto parts stores which is best to use. The formulation has changed dramatically
in the last 5-years due to EPA enforcement and compliance. I have
not seen a quality dip basket that is both effective that cleans well
and removes gunk and varnish during the cleaning process.

Good luck to you rproject !!

:-D\\:D/
 
gbw said:
I tried to go thru one of the local Suzuki shops but since there is no part number for the pilot fuel screws he couldn't help. Told me that the screws came as part of the carb body assembly and were not sold separately.
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i no longer bother asking anything at any suzuki dealership, or any shop for that matter
i just look up at the gsr and get all the info i need :-D
 
psyguy said:
i no longer bother asking anything at any suzuki dealership, or any shop for that matter
i just look up at the gsr and get all the info i need :-D
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Yeah, I'm getting there myself. I wanted them to be good and to care. I think they try sometimes, but not much.

The guys in the back turning wrenches have been good to me. Old school...good guys. But I'm trying to do the work myself and save some $$$ so I don't talk to them much nowadays.

The parts counter is a crap shoot. Sometime you get a guy who knows which end is up, but your just as likely to get somebody that seems like they just walked in off the street and started standing behind the counter because he had nothing better to do.

Maybe they know the new bikes or something but unless I have the part number they are lost. Plus, it has always worked out that I can get the part for less from Z1, BikeBandit, or Flatout, and that includes the shipping cost.
 
if u want i will get the part # for ya and u can send them pricy kits back if u don't need the whole thing
 
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