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Oil filter cover studs...

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The bike is an '80 GS550E. It has three studs for the filter cover. The PO butchered two of these studs and basically glued the cover back on with permatex... :? Any way, How are these studs removed? Are they threaded or pressed in? If they are threaded, can I twist them out with vise grips? And, when installing the new ones, what type of thread locker should I use, if any....

TIA.....
 
Yeah

Yeah

Yeah, it's a 6 X 20 stud bolt and it's threaded in. I don't know if you could get it out with vise grips but I'd give it a try (but be careful). You might want to call a bike shop first and see what they think. :roll:

After you get them out, I'd use strong Lock Tite (the red stuff, I think) because you never should have to mess with them again. :wink:

By the way, the studs are available at Bike Bandit for $1.06 each but I'll bet your Suzuki dealer would have them in stock because they fit scads of other models. :o
 
You might try the "old" technique of using 2 (or more) nuts together on the thread to turn the stud out of the engine casing.

This problem of stripped oil filter cover studs is a common one. I believe that the common cause is that owners are concerned about a potential engine catastrophe if there is a large loss of oil, should the filter cover work loose. The "one last turn with the wrench to make sure" practice therefore is prevalent. Immense force is not required to snug up the cover nuts; rather it is guarranteed to strip the stud threads sooner or later. If you are concerned with the filter cover working loose, clean the threads well on reassembly, and then use Loctite Blue when putting on the retaining nuts.

BB
 
Thanks guys.... I always use the torque wrench for these nuts. The previous owner really did a job on these studs..... :roll:
 
Right

Right

The Bold Biker is "right on" about people thinking that "one more pull" on the wrench will ensure security (only to find out that they've stripped it)....it's a bad habit I didn't get over until I was about 30 years old. :oops:
 
DO NOT locktite those things in place...

They stick well enough on their own, as you're about to find out...

If the threads are intact, 2-bolts is the best way to go...

Otherwise, visegrips, but BE CAREFUL and grip it at the base - if you grip it too far towards the top you WILL snap it off (then you get to drill/tap a new hole, etc)...
 
Yeah, I wouldn't apply Loctite because it's not for this sort of application. I'd be nervous, too, about using Vise-Grips but people do. The two nuts approach or using a stud puller, if you can find one, would be better.
 
Actually red loctite is made for "stud and bearing mount". There is no problem using locktite to mount the studs. This will insure that the stud does not back out will removing the oil filter cover nuts. Two nuts locked up against each other is the best way to remove a stud.

Dr. Dre
 
Dr. , Red Loctite has to be removed be heat and could create problems removing those studs in the event they strip or break in the future. If ya going to use a thread locker us the blue stuff, then you will have only half the headache getting out those studs later. Better, remove the studs a use the appropriate sized bolts to fasten that cover. My 2cents!
 
Both

Both

I understand both arguments but....I'd use Loctite unless they're really hard to 'turn in' in the first place (which they very well may be). I doubt you can go too far wrong either way. Jeeeeeez, there's a million other things that will probably go wrong before you have to deal with that again and I just doubt it will ever be an issue again......especially since you'll be careful every time you change your oil filter. :o
 
I think I'll put them in dry at first. If they ever back out, I'll put a drop of blue on it. Then a drop of red if it happens again.


Thanks for all the info. :wink:
 
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