Pine Sol for carb dip

[GateKeeper]

OK, I have the carbs off the bike, do I need to take them apart before I put them into a bucket of PinSol ? Or leave them as is, and let em soak for a day or two. I am not worried about the O rings, I ordered a kit for that, but what about diaphragm's.

I know it will be ok on the metal and aluminum parts, is there anything I should remove before the big dip ?http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...sg=AFQjCNHTSIxKINnhjmBGz5d7nl7UmLgpKQ&cad=rja

 

[850 Combat]

I think I have more than $100.00 in a 5 gallon pail of Berryman's and a basket. Its not that inexpensive in Oregon.

I wasn't certain that I could fit a DCOE in the gallon pail. Two easily fit in the 5 gallon.

 

[niclpnut]

Take them apaft so they can get into all the nooks, crannies, and inner passsgeways.

I boiled mine in the pinesol to speed things up. Does a nice job but can oxidize quickly. Be quick to rinse them then fog em with some w-d.

did not put any plastic/rubber in the pinesol so dont know if it will eat it up.

It did easily remove the paint off my black cv carbs on my 83E.

Nic

 

[GateKeeper]

will it hurt these, or let em soak as well

was going to soak it as is first for a day or so, rinse, then take it all apart, and soak again for a day or so, then get into all the small holes and such for a very thorough cleaning

put in a better picture

 

[cowboyup3371]

I don't think that boot is any good with that tear. Might want to start looking for some replacements (search on other threads as there was talk about it early last week).

 

[GateKeeper]

not my boot and not my tear, just a pic of of the internet, I was more curious will the pine sol soak hurt these items, or should boots be removed before the soak ?

I only took one carb apart from the top and the boot is in great shape, I didn't want to ruin it by having it sit in pine sol for a few days....

I think I will just remove them, and let all the rest soak

Thanks

 

[cowboyup3371]

You don't need to remove the boots and better off just to wipe the slides down with carb spray and a rag. You don't want to dip them.

 

[SVSooke]

Took mine down completely,would not put the slides and diaphragms in.Does a good but not great job.If they are to bad like the ones on my 1000 I found the answer here http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=178816 .Great cleaner but the Pine Sol smells better.

 

[GateKeeper]

once they are all apart, do all the parts have to go back from the carb they came from or can all the little bits and pieces be mixed and put in any carb, so if a needle cam e from carb 1, can it go to carb 4, or must it go back to where it originally came from ?

not sure if I can strip it all down, throw it all in a bucket, minus the boot and slides, and then rinse and start putting it back together.

or do one at a time, each in it's own container, keeping all part as one complete set

my carbs don't look so bad, so a really deep clean on the outside is not all that necessary, has some old oil and soot on them, not much of anything else

 

[cowboyup3371]

Do one at a time. Have you downloaded Nessism's tutorial yet? If not, get to it because it will save you a lot of headaches.

Plus, put your bike info in your signature block so we don't have to keep asking.

 

[GateKeeper]

@cowboyup3371 - Thanks, I will do one at a time then, sounds like a good way to go

I have read the tutorial and have a copy handy, have ordered the O ring kit as well, some new SS bolts, and new rings for the intake side as well

 

[SVSooke]

Done it both ways.Skunk carb where together because I dipped them one at a time.Pot only did 1.The 2 750 sets went in 1 "vat" of Pine Sol.Don't think much ended where it stated on either set.Both sets work great with a little help from Mr.Barr

 

[AJ]

Never tried PineSol, but like the idea of it. I do use it for heavy degreasing sometimes, but find it works better without water for initial soak. Would be surprised if it were better than a good carb cleaner for removing the gasoline varnish which is usually the problem. Heck, half the time the carb dips can't clean the jets and I end up redrilling them.

 

[fishfarm]

I used the Pine Sol soak method and it seemed to work, but mine were not too bad to begin with. I did one at a time, put the small parts in a cup to keep them together, and kept the slides/diaphrams out.

After soaking, I used an old toothbrush on the outsides, washed them in warm water, sprayed them all (especially the internal passages) with carb cleaner and let them dry.

New o-rings, bench set, float set, install and sync. Almost 10k miles still working great.

 

[GateKeeper]

This is what I am talking about....Thanks for the post

Mine are not that bad either, but just enough to be dirty on the outside, and probably not so bad on the inside, but a full rebuild will be done...

I used the Pine Sol soak method and it seemed to work, but mine were not too bad to begin with. I did one at a time, put the small parts in a cup to keep them together, and kept the slides/diaphrams out.

After soaking, I used an old toothbrush on the outsides, washed them in warm water, sprayed them all (especially the internal passages) with carb cleaner and let them dry.

New o-rings, bench set, float set, install and sync. Almost 10k miles still working great.

 

[Steve]

OK, I have the carbs off the bike, do I need to take them apart before I put them into a bucket of PinSol ? Or leave them as is, and let em soak for a day or two. I am not worried about the O rings, I ordered a kit for that, but what about diaphragm's.

Why NOT take them apart? :-k

You are going to take them all apart to change the o-rings, anyway, you might as well do it beforehand,
so you can be assured that whatever fluid you use will get into ALL the nooks and crannies.

.

 

[GateKeeper]

I was not sure if I could just dunk them with out taking them apart, and after the soak they would be taken apart over hauled, and put back together. I assumed them being a whole would not make a diff while soaking, as I assumed the pine sol would get into everything anyways....

seems I am not correct

so

I will take apart each one, and have it sit in it's own solution, no parts will be mixed up with other parts, and each one will get a good soaking

Thanks for all the advise

 

[IanDMacDonald]

Fellas-

This method of cleaning carbs has been around for quite awhile on the other forums (I belong to a few Honda and XS forums). The thing about the pinesol, and other degreasers is that it's more of a mind trick. You see them come out nice and shiny with little cleaning, and assume they are clean. When in-fact, there are still many passages that are plugged. I have tried many different methods over the years with Pinesol, lemon juice, Simple Green, Purple Magic, etc., to the point of putting heater coils in steel tubs, oscillators to mimic sonic waves, etc.

The true and tried method as Ed says was to use the Carb Dip. I have many friends that work for Rousch racing down in Livonia, and they use Berryman's carb dip for all their carbs needing to be cleaned. They are obviously aware of all the different parts cleaners available to them, and they still use Berryman's. It comes down to preference, but, Berryman's is the equivalent to Rotella T5 to the diesel industry, as Pinesol is equivalent to dollar store 10W-40.

And my recommendation is to break the carbs completely down before soaking. It makes absolutely no sense to leave them intact. And personally, knowing how much I have spent on torn diaphragms before gorilla glue and nitrile gloves were known as as great fix for tears, I would not trust any chemical to leaving my diaphragms in. Give them a light touch with a cloth, and don't mess with them. The more you play with them, the more the possibility for them to get torn! Put them away from anything to puncture them or cause damage until you are ready to re-install them.

I'm not saying Pinesol and other detergents are not great cleaners, as I have seen them make my carbs look great, but, I have compared cleaning results between Carb Dip and Pinesol, and feel the Carb Dip does a better job. Just my humble opinion . . .

 

[Guest]

Someone on another board recomended the Berrymans as usual followed by a day or so in Pinesol.

 

[IanDMacDonald]

I'm wondering if the Pinesol treatment is more for the visual cleanliness of the carbs, while the Berryman's is for the nooks and crannies, which is what we really want clean!