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Pulled over for???

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okay as a officer ill speak up..

it doesn't matter how much you dont break the law.. you were riding with out eye protection he had the a good reason to stop you..

if you pulled out of the gas station and did 110 in a 55 is that ok cause you were only doing it for a few seconds?


the officer was doing a probable cause stop. just making sure you were all legal and didn't have any warrants..

im sure if he would have saw someone else doing it he would pull them over just the same.

you cant get upset for getting a warning for breaking a law you were clearly aware of..

its not a big deal it was only a warning.. just brush it off and thank him for being out there doing his job and being proactive and trying to find criminal.
 
okay as a officer ill speak up..

it doesn't matter how much you dont break the law.. you were riding with out eye protection he had the a good reason to stop you..

if you pulled out of the gas station and did 110 in a 55 is that ok cause you were only doing it for a few seconds?


the officer was doing a probable cause stop. just making sure you were all legal and didn't have any warrants..

im sure if he would have saw someone else doing it he would pull them over just the same.

you cant get upset for getting a warning for breaking a law you were clearly aware of..

its not a big deal it was only a warning.. just brush it off and thank him for being out there doing his job and being proactive and trying to find criminal.

+1.

I would like to add that other people getting away with breaking laws does not mean you will...even the petty, mundane laws.

Lastly, you need to keep in mind that a large portion of recovered stolen vehicles are recovered during probable cause stops. They forgot to use a blinker or they were driving 3mph over the speed limit or they may have pulled out of the gas station with their visor up. If your bike had been stolen and the same officer recovered it after stopping the culprit for changing lanes in the middle of a protect right turn you would be like "hey you're awesome."
 
He had a TECHNICAL reason to stop him, from the sound of it. If he gets down the block with his face shield up, thats a lot different from 'just pulling out' and getting pulled over before you're half way through first gear. In my experience many cyclists pull out with the shield up, and for VERY GOOD REASON. What's more unsafe, pulling out with a fogged shield and/or sweat in your eyes, or pulling out with your shield up? Honestly, we don't know these details here we're just assuming them.

It really does sound like the officer was 'just checking' - for what you never know. I've had it happen to me too - you get home and that tail light works just fine thank you very much - but I don't see any point in getting mad about it, maybe they were looking for someone, or some thing, in particular a vehicle closely matching mine - you never know.
 
He had a TECHNICAL reason to stop him, from the sound of it. If he gets down the block with his face shield up, thats a lot different from 'just pulling out' and getting pulled over before you're half way through first gear. In my experience many cyclists pull out with the shield up, and for VERY GOOD REASON. What's more unsafe, pulling out with a fogged shield and/or sweat in your eyes, or pulling out with your shield up? Honestly, we don't know these details here we're just assuming them.

It really does sound like the officer was 'just checking' - for what you never know. I've had it happen to me too - you get home and that tail light works just fine thank you very much - but I don't see any point in getting mad about it, maybe they were looking for someone, or some thing, in particular a vehicle closely matching mine - you never know.

Maybe they heard you made a fresh batch of muffins and were hoping for a yummy bribe? :lol:
 
I have been pulled over for nothing before, didnt even tell me why... but it was 12:30am in front of a college so he was obviously checking if I had been drinking. Once he saw the car seat in the back and a fresh gallon of milk in the seat next to me he just let me on my way.

A lot of times we get pulled over for the simple reasons just because. Worst ticket I got was not stopping on a left turn from a one way road to another one way road. The stop sign was in the middle island and I was on the left of it, also the road I turned to had a new lane created where I turned so there was no way a car could be in that lane. Anyways I didnt see the officer and he pulled me over infront of a homeless shelter. The entire back of the car was filled with bread, about 5 30 gallon clear bags. I explained I didnt know the area or see the sign and was just trying to find the shelter as it was my first time delivering bread to them. He wrote me up for a $100 ticket... I fought it and they reduced it to $10 but still gave me points on my license and a huge fee on insurance. The worst part was I was so turned off by the event I stopped delivering bread to that shelter and took it to another town. Have not gone back to Waltham since...
 
The blind eye of Justice

The blind eye of Justice

okay as a officer ill speak up..

it doesn't matter how much you dont break the law.. you were riding with out eye protection he had the a good reason to stop you..

if you pulled out of the gas station and did 110 in a 55 is that ok cause you were only doing it for a few seconds?


the officer was doing a probable cause stop. just making sure you were all legal and didn't have any warrants..

im sure if he would have saw someone else doing it he would pull them over just the same.


you cant get upset for getting a warning for breaking a law you were clearly aware of..

its not a big deal it was only a warning.. just brush it off and thank him for being out there doing his job and being proactive and trying to find criminal.


Thank you for the voice of the other side.

cg
 
I know in michigan your suppose to have eye protection and it is suppose to be shatter proof.
 
BTW....

HTH would you be able to ride anywhere without eye protection ? After about 15mph my eyes water up to the point of blindness :eek:.
 
I agree with being pulled over for not having eye protection. Helmet laws exist primarily to protect the rider from themselves. By contrast, eye protection has a direct impact on others on the road because even a small bug can take 100% of your focus away if it hits you right.
 
okay as a officer ill speak up..

it doesn't matter how much you dont break the law.. you were riding with out eye protection he had the a good reason to stop you..

if you pulled out of the gas station and did 110 in a 55 is that ok cause you were only doing it for a few seconds?


the officer was doing a probable cause stop. just making sure you were all legal and didn't have any warrants..

im sure if he would have saw someone else doing it he would pull them over just the same.

you cant get upset for getting a warning for breaking a law you were clearly aware of..

its not a big deal it was only a warning.. just brush it off and thank him for being out there doing his job and being proactive and trying to find criminal.

First of all I want to thank Im Faster (I'm sure that nickname in no way reflects a tendancy to exceed the posted speed limits :))for the work that you do for our communities as an officer! I have a lot of respect for anyone that puts their own safety on the line for others, and I say that with 10 years on a fire department. Over the years I have been stopped several times for probable cause and I totally understand that it is a tool that law enforcement has to do their job. Only one time did it bother me and it was the officers attitude, not the reason for the stop, that irritated me. He stopped me for going through a yellow light on an empty street going through a very small town at 11:00 at night with my family asleep in the car. He berated me and wanted me to appreciate that he was ONLY going to give me a warning this time. Don't get me wrong, I know there are times when you need to present yourself as the person with authority for a variety of reasons, but it's not always WHAT you do or say that makes the lasting impression, it is HOW you do or say it. If that officer had just lost the attitude and explained why he stopped me, ran my DL and plates, and told me to have a safe trip I would have long ago forgotten the incident. If I had clearly blown a red light I deserved a ticket too but I didn't and he never claimed I did. I believe it is pretty common for people with authority (I'm not limiting that statement to law enforcement by the way, could be me with my teenage daughter explaining what time to be home!) to forget that they should treat others with respect as they would expect themselvs or their family members to be treated.

When a patrol car is driving down the interstate at 5mph above the posted speed limit with the rest of traffic are they breaking the law themselves? The answer is yes (unless of course they are displaying lights and sirens, your answer may very by state.....). Does that mean they deserve a ticket because they are a danger to themselves and society at large because they are exceeding the speed limit by 5mph? Not in my book. Is driving a MC without eye protection in Mn illegal? Yes, and a probable cause for a stop. Is driving away from a gas station a block or two with your shield still up a safety hazzard? Doubtful.
 
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I agree with being pulled over for not having eye protection. Helmet laws exist primarily to protect the rider from themselves. By contrast, eye protection has a direct impact on others on the road because even a small bug can take 100% of your focus away if it hits you right.

I fully agree with the law too, it doesn't take much to make you lose control if you get hit in the eye, and an out of control motorcycle is a deadly projectile.
 
I, like one of the previous posters, am also employed in law enforcement. Although I may, or may not agree with all of the laws on the books, they are there for a reason, and I'm sworn to uphold them (even if with just a warning). There must have been an incident somewhere/time in the past to have caused the lawmakers to put that statute on the book.

On the other hand, I also agree that their are old laws, that should be removed, still on the books in some jurisdictions. In the first town PD I worked for there is still a law on the books that you cannot paint a horse, nor ride one in front of the church on Sundays.

Dustin
 
No eye protection law here in Texas. Our helmet law is screwed up. It's mandatory unless you have health insurance or took an MSF course. They just did away with a requirement to have a decal on the bike to prove you are exempt. The new law also says the police have no right to determine if you have taken an MSF course or are insured, so it's now a neutered law.
 
IL has required eye protection (but no mandatory helmet) for longer than I've been driving, and I think the law itself makes perfect sense. On the other hand, I think that if the officer was truly trying to enforce the "spirit of the law" he should have followed you for a block or two to see if you lowered the shield after pulling out. Considering all the other safety equipment you were wearing I feel the officer should have been willing to give you an extra moment to correct the problem on your own, which I suspect you would've done momentarily...

Sometimes I simply forget to lower my shield before pulling away from a stop, but the moment the breeze begins I am reminded to lower it. Of course, for me it's a secondary measure because my bike has a windshield (considered appropriate eye protection in IL) AND I almost always wear sunglasses (no ... not at night, hehe!).

Regards,
 
It's a law here too, and I think with good reason. But I think most motorcyclists keep their shield up whenever they're at a stop and put it down once they're underway - I know I do.
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That's what I do (but I'm always wearing sunglasses anyway when it's light out). It's a law here, too.
Ken
 
Just my 2 cents....

Yes, it is a stupid thing to get pulled over for, Ive been pulled over a few times simply for being out late in an area known for drunk drivers. Was it annoying? yes. Was it pointless? no, not at all because I know they are actually doing their jobs. If your so concerned about the number of people you saw breaking the law then go through the academy and become a law enforcement officer and then try and pull over every single person you see during a shift :-k

you got a warning so get over it and learn from it for next time. For all you know he could of had a bolo for a motorcycle with a rough description that matched your bike. In a situation where an officer wants to pull you to check you out they will watch for any little thing to give them probable cause, be it no signal, swerving, speeding even just a few mph over, or in this case no eye protection. If you said why did you pull me over and he said oh I just felt like pulling you to check you out you would have been ****ed too, they gotta have a reason.
 
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