Pulled the oil pan and found these bits of metal - help me ID?

[blowerbike]

i think the basket's different...the rest should be the same or close going off of memory.
750 basket has more teeth.
a lot of e bay sellers sell as a complete assembly...that's where my low priced stuff came from.

 

[blowerbike]

this is how i find stuff when i don't need it...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Suzuki...Parts_Accessories&hash=item3397026056&vxp=mtr



http://www.ebay.com/itm/80-SUZUKI-G...Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d3dceeead&vxp=mtr


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-SUZUKI...Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6c893dcf&vxp=mtr



http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-Suzuki...Parts_Accessories&hash=item43d5c6a8e6&vxp=mtr

 

[blowerbike]

here is the search i used (suzuki 850 clutch)...i found 6 more and there's still several pages left.
go with the cleanest/best looking/best info/most complete/lowest millage if info is offered...they can and do fib.
don't necessarily go with the cheapest but i think you can get some nice parts for under 50 to your door.
good luck.

 

[mikerophone]

Nice! Thanks again blowerbike you're the man!

The drive and driven plate part numbers are the same, so you'd think the baskets would be, but I'll do some digging, I know they share a lot of common parts but some are indeed different.



Pickup up screen was clean so I don't think anything got inside the engine, just in the pan and clutch cover. At least I hope so. Don't see any way it could have from the drawings and pictures I've seen. I think Richards was from something inside the engine -and- the clutch IIRC.

 

[blowerbike]

if the question is on a 750 basket..........nope...to many teeth.
suzuki used the same clutch pack i think from 550-850's.

 

[mikerophone]

if the question is on a 750 basket..........nope...to many teeth.
suzuki used the same clutch pack i think from 550-850's.

Gotcha. Well since you found me several that are cheap enough on eBay, I'll go that route. One listing even has the bearings included. Thinking I'll just pick up a good/cheap one and order the bearings.

Is is the piano wire re-usable if not bent out of shape?

 

[blowerbike]

well i thought the smaller clutch stuff didn't have a piano wire...maybe the 750 don't...hmmm
maybe yes, maybe no on reusing it.
if you grab a complete assembly just inspect it and install it..no need to pull the last steel off the inner hub.
buy nice looking medium priced stuff...the bearing last a life time...don't over think or over spend.
not necessary..
if the clutch slips add 3 HD springs or maybe then splurge for new fibers.

 

[mikerophone]

Thanks again!

Thanks again!

Thanks for the straightforward, practical advice and recommendations.

Luckily I am not in a huge hurry since I can't ride the thing for months anyway....so I'll wait for the right assembly at the right price and replace my bearings too since they got a little charred.

 

[londonboards]

blowerbike - what are the possibilities of any of that shrapnel spinning around the motor and damaging crank and gearbox parts? I'm pretty sure the damage to my crank (in the GS1150) was due to the clutch explosion. But I stand corrected if it wasn't.

Greetings

 

[blowerbike]

blowerbike - what are the possibilities of any of that shrapnel spinning around the motor and damaging crank and gearbox parts? I'm pretty sure the damage to my crank (in the GS1150) was due to the clutch explosion. But I stand corrected if it wasn't.

Greetings

the complete clutch side needs removed and inspected.
the small GS's don't break baskets like the 1000/1100/1150's.
if the pan debris looks like "soft" material then i wouldn't worry to much.
it seems like your 1150 engine had basket and starter clutch debris? hard parts for sure and can cause a lot of damage.
the smaller GS engines don't seem to be as destructive.
inspect/clean it out/replace with a good used assembly.

 

[mikerophone]

the complete clutch side needs removed and inspected.

if the pan debris looks like "soft" material then i wouldn't worry to much.

inspect/clean it out/replace with a good used assembly.

This is what I'll be doing. The metal was all soft and brittle aluminum, a single driven plate had disintegrated and everything I found was inside the clutch cover other than the few bits that I posted in my first post, and that was in my oil pan, had to have fallen through the small passageway behind the gearshift shaft and were too large and heavy to be picked up through the screen filter.