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puncture kits when on road trips ?
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I wonder if those will work with bike tires, bias ply and radial?
I should say those 4 car punctures were: 2 drywall screws, one 6mm bolt and the end of a round file.
Probably from the contractor parking lot at Lowe's and my garage.
This is the best of the type -- Nealey kits are installed a bit differently than most, and they work beautifully, especially in oddball or off-angle punctures that give trouble with normal sticky strings. Plus they come in a nice little container that tucks into your kit easily.
http://www.tirerepairkit.com/whichkit.htm (You want the mini kit.)
For air, you can't beat a compact electric compressor. The "Slime" brand pump is most common and available almost anywhere. There are far more expensive alternatives from Aerostich and BestRest if you feel like spending some serious cash. My Slime pump has never let me down -- I do replace it every year or two (they're less than $20 at any Walmart or Meijer).
Some common, but flawed alternatives:
- "Stop-n-Go" tire plugging kit (this is the one that squeezes little rubber mushrooms into the tire). Useless, bordering on fraudulent. Dangerous garbage. In motorcycle tires, the rubber plugs work themselves out in a few miles. Basically, the tire seems to cut them in two and they pop out. Following a flat 30 miles from home, I finally arrived back home with four plugs bouncing around the inside of the tire and the fifth leaking badly.
- CO2 cartridge inflators - nearly useless. Seems like a good idea, until you realize that it takes at least four cartridges to get a skinny vintage bike tire to a somewhat rideable pressure. And if you have more than one flat (it's common for objects like nails to be found together, or for staples to make double punctures), or if your repair leaks, you're stuck unless you carry a large box of cartridges.
For tubed tires, you'll need to add tire irons, spare tubes (yes, one for each tubed tire -- there's an old dirtbiker's myth that you can use a front tube in the rear temporarily, but this never works for more than a few miles). Add a small tube patch kit as a "Plan B".
I do however and embarrassingly still have one of those stop n go mushroom plugs in my rear tire.
It was all that was available when I picked up a drywall screw in Maryland. I didnt use the co2 though. I had the convenience of installing it at a convenience store air pump-the screw was only leaking slowly. I had no problems installing it.
It now has about 1500 miles on it. And yes, I need to change that tire.
Just cut all that plastic off and you have a rather small electric air pump no bigger than a water bottle.
I have one just like it.
On my ATVs I use the sticky plugs that come in a kit... and we have patched some huge gashes with those (we used 18 on one gash and we rode 2 more days like that- lol).
BSAU159f states that no repairs are allowed in the sidewalls (these flex continuously and a repair is likely to fail), and the standard says repairs are not allowed on high speed Z-rated tyres.
It says a tyre must be inspected by an expert for secondary damage (a nail which punctures the tread might also damage the sidewall inside), run-flat damage (determined by a darkened or marbled appearance inside the sidewall), exposed cords and so on.
Michelin, however, is the only manufacturer that recommends that its Z rated tyres can be repaired in accordance with the previous BSAU159e.
Repairs can only be made in the centre of the tread area, to within 25% of each side of the centre line.
Only two repairs per tyre are allowed up to the J (62mph) speed rating, and one up to the V (over 130mph with 155mph maximum) speed rating. Up to the J rating, repairs no bigger than 6mm are allowed, and up to the V rating only up to 3mm is allowed.
All repairs must be carried out with a mushroom-type plug, which fits into the puncture hole from the inside and bonds with the tyre by vulcanisation.
Anything else and the BS says the tyre must be chucked. If your tyre repairer says the same and quotes similar reasons, he?s being honest.
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A good friend of mine used to put 12-15 thousand miles a year on his bikes and he told me that he only had to get caught once without a tire patch kit before he purchased one.
ukjules
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I don't need one yet but I'm on a road trip now 700 miles in
and broke down with another issue.
I realise one puncture too could cause serious issues !
So it's a dynaplug I'll get but
where do I get the sticky rope thing in UK ?
The nealey one suggested ?
Is there one on eBay I can nab ?
Cheers
My GS used tubed type and I used to go all over including the Sahara, my bike pump use to cable tie under the tank together with the tyre levers but will go just about anywhere. I never needed them myself but helped others a couple of times.
ukjules
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Like your method though as when way out , I am stuck in Holland at mo
You need anything to get going.
Are the tyres easy to get off and on then with levers ?
Think I'll use your method but carry the others
Sticky rope method too.
I've used my slime compressor to inflate several tires that were flat after being repaired. Never had a problem with the bike starting afterward. Of course this is on my 07 Bandit, but would image a GS would be similar.
Jules, based on your signature, all your bikes will have tubes, except the maybe the 82 GPZ if it's been upgraded.
If you have a tubeless tire you will see the valve stem looks very different, tubeless have a rubber bulbous part that comes out of the rim, where-as tube type will just have the threaded valve stem coming out of the rim with a nut to hold it in place.
There are some pretty good YouTube videos on repairing punctures in tubes on motorcycles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoSgtkhRORc
Also Horizons Unlimited have a DVD on the process, Grant is very good at this and is a good teacher, I've seen his demos at HU rallies a few times.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/store/dvds/achievable-dream-part-5-tire-changing
Practice, Practice and more practice will make this process manageable, but best to learn at home on a spare wheel from the wreckers, rather than on the side of the road in the rain or scorching hot sun with no place to find shade.
Good luck.
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