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restrictors for pods

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ok i dident want to get into this argument but pondering usually gets me into trouble.

ok starting on the 1000GT and i was surprised with what i had to do. built a new fuse box similar to the one on cliffs site with some mod:D re did a lot of the connections. checked over the usual coils, stator, r/r, signal gen.. ect

it starts with an arm or rags over the airbox side of the carbs for the restriction. im going to do the intake boots & o-rings.

Z1 dosent have the airbox boots for the 1000 i can get them from babbits for about 60$. then i have to seal the airbox itself.

ok heres the real question would it be possible to do POD's with a restriction plate v.s. rejetting or going stock:-k

or one big pod with a custom manifold :eek:
 
something like this
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if that is what you want then get some cheap emgo pods and dip them 1/2 into a rubber insulation dip to even further restrict the flow.
 
I hope he was being facetious. Emgos are junk and the only vehicle I would put them on is anything my ex drives, in the hope that it would self-destruct.
If your question is sincere, I would put individual pods (K&N or (was it APE?)) and then build a box around all 4 pods. At the back I would put a plate with an adjustable hole of some type as the air restictor.
Personally, I would do what I am currently doing with my GPz, which is to dial in the jetting for pods and be done with it.
 
WOW! :eek:

In my little mind, I have always thought that the main reason to install pods was to increase the air available to the engine for enhanced performance. :-\\\

Is there really that much aesthetic appeal to the pods to go through that much effort to install them? I mean, you have to re-jet for the pods, which adds an area of uncertainty. Now you want to try to re-flow the pods to match the stock airbox so you don't have to re-jet? :-k

You must REALLY like the "look" of pods.
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Steve said:
Now you want to try to re-flow the pods to match the stock airbox so you don't have to re-jet? :-k
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yesser. i am trying to make something to reduce the parts that wear out, as well as simplify it.

and no i dont care for the look of pods and i think the big open space would make me sigh but lets face it. its 30 yrs old parts are not as obtainable as they were and thats going to get worse
 
refeicul said:
yesser. i am trying to make something to reduce the parts that wear out, as well as simplify it.

and no i dont care for the look of pods and i think the big open space would make me sigh but lets face it. its 30 yrs old parts are not as obtainable as they were and thats going to get worse
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With this lofty goal in mind, why would you want pods at all?
Seal the airbox once and let it run another thirty years.
 
refeicul said:
ok i dident want to get into this argument but pondering usually gets me into trouble.

ok starting on the 1000GT and i was surprised with what i had to do. built a new fuse box similar to the one on cliffs site with some mod:D re did a lot of the connections. checked over the usual coils, stator, r/r, signal gen.. ect

it starts with an arm or rags over the airbox side of the carbs for the restriction. im going to do the intake boots & o-rings.

Z1 dosent have the airbox boots for the 1000 i can get them from babbits for about 60$. then i have to seal the airbox itself.

ok heres the real question would it be possible to do POD's with a restriction plate v.s. rejetting or going stock:-k

or one big pod with a custom manifold :eek:
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If you are trying to decide between making your pods more restrictive instead of rejetting, rejet. Rejetting is going to be easier than trying to fine tune any restriction. I am guessing that the restrictor plates that you manufacture will limit performance and be harder to jet correctly than a stock, sealed air box.

The mainifold style airbox is also going to be as difficult to dial in unless you model it off of a stock airbox or have an advanced knowledge of fluid dynamics.

If pods are you only option, which I doubt since parts are still available, another member here had created plastic pod covers that were adjustable. It reminded me of styrofoam coffee cup that was placed over the pod cones.
Here it is, rather creative.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=151817&highlight=adjustable+pod+cover&page=3
 
I?ve restricted pod filters with thick plastic cup. I cut down the cups to match the filter leaving about 1/8 to ? inch between the large metal end of the filter and cup. Easy and adjustable. Just be sure to use a nylon lock nut with lock tight. Don?t want the nut to go into the carbs. If you paint the cups they look cool too like clear cups with kandy apple paint or dyed.

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I got $30 in 8 main jets and $3 in washers for the needles. $100 in jet kits is over priced for pod and/or header jetting. Even if I get pilot jets I’d still have less then $60 in jetting.
4 cheap EMGO pods and cheap Wal-mart cups or whatever just to restrict the airflow down to equal K&N pods would still cause someone to end with $40 to $60 in pods. So restrictors aren’t going to save any real money over good pod filters. Still can use the cups to keep water out of the good pods and catch air for the filter like scoops.
 
Cheaper to buy a rope. Tie the bike to a tree and walk away....

Sorry for being flippant but just bung the airbox back on. Suzuki designed that thing to clean air and it does.
 
I can't see doing this to pods with the goal of making them take in the same amount of air under all conditions as the stock box.
Remember that the stock airbox is a TUNED part. It's not just a box that allows a certain amount of air in. It also distributes the air evenly and funnels it so the carbs can work well. The CV carbs are designed to work well with the factory airbox.
You'll have issues.
 
KEITH KRAUSE said:
I can't see doing this to pods with the goal of making them take in the same amount of air under all conditions as the stock box.
Remember that the stock airbox is a TUNED part. It's not just a box that allows a certain amount of air in. It also distributes the air evenly and funnels it so the carbs can work well. The CV carbs are designed to work well with the factory airbox.
You'll have issues.
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Oh no i think a carb board beer box with duct tape will be just fine, throw some blue plastic cups in there so when you need to drink in public you got it made. :rolleyes:

If he needs a tune, then he should turn the radio up
 
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