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seafoam ?

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lrgguy said:
so what would you recommend ?

strip down , dip all jets , carbs etc , and only replace all o rings ?
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yup !!!!!!!!

www.cycleorings.com for the O rings

inspect each and every jet, thin wire to poke in the holes but don't enlarge any

if you don't have any BerryMans you can use the PineSol method, or if you have access to an ultrasonic cleaner....

adjust float bowls, assemble and you should be good to go....

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GateKeeper said:
yup !!!!!!!!

www.cycleorings.com for the O rings

inspect each and every jet, thin wire to poke in the holes but don't enlarge any

if you don't have any BerryMans you can use the PineSol method, or if you have access to an ultrasonic cleaner....

adjust float bowls, assemble and you should be good to go....

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yeah here in Ontario i have searched everywere for the carb dip , with no such luck !!

might have to settle for the pinesol way , i hear it works pretty good !!

with my 650 , i removed all o rings etc and used gas to soak carbs in , which worked ok but i was high as a kite and feeling sick to my stomach the hole time !! dont wanna do that agaiin !!
 
where in Ontario are you gatekeeper ? i see you have Hazels playground .. with that being said , are you in Mississauga ? thats where im at .,.
 
Its not designed to be full force in the bowls...No wonder the smoke show. I suggest you do the full tear down and dip, new orings,,etc etc. Then a few times a year run Berrymans B12 Chemtool thru then tank. I usually use about 1/3 can per tank full. This wont fix severely gunked up carbs that are really needing rebuilt, but it will refresh and clean the delivery syatem from the stuff thjat will eventually start building up.

I use a good dose should a bike be put up for a longer period also.
 
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OK you got me beat, I was not here all my life, but close....

PM sent with more detail.......

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I haven't had luck with seafoam... All my experiences have been bad. IMO If your carbs are really dirty, nothing beats ultrasonic cleaning or a soak.

As far as fuel stabilizer... I use sta-bil and have had good luck with it.
 
GateKeeper said:
OK you got me beat, I was not here all my life, but close....

PM sent with ore detail.......

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Yeah I recieved the message . Thx . Def ill give you a call sometime soon ..
Drove right past your neiberhood just yesterday.. good to meet ya Dan
 
I did some searching a while back and found zero empirical evidence that seafoam actually does anything. The company makes ridiculously broad claims about its capabilities, all the while saying that there's nothing in it which can harm any seals or other engine parts. These seem to be conflicting claims... anything that's going to clean up carbon or other petroleum deposits or combustion by-products with such little exposure is pretty much going to be bad for many types of seals, o-rings, and whatnot.

Last time I checked, all I could ever find was forums like this one where people have tried it and it seemed to help their specific issue... at least a little bit... maybe... and those who have tried it and it did nothing at all. What I looked for, and did not find, was an independent third-party review of the product, Mythbusters-style:

- Take an old engine with dubious carbs and carbon build-up in the cylinders, tear it down, take pictures, measure the gunk.
- Put it back together, run Seafoam through the engine as directed on the can.
- Take the engine back apart and compare with previous photos and measurements.

If anyone has done this, I would very much appreciate at pointer to the article or video.

EDIT: It may be good as a fuel stabilizer. But I don't know what's in fuel stabilizers, so I can't say one way or the other right now. However, the MSDS lists aluminum as an incompatible container material for SeaForm, so I would be leery of letting it pool in my carbs.
 
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My experience is this.. bought a GS750 cheap (parts bike)Told had bad #3 cylinder low/no compression (30psi) others 150psi.

Guy had $1500.00 put into it 3 yrs ago.incl.. carbs cleaned,tank cleaned/new petcock, chain+sprockets, rear tire, some elect work. He took it out for a roadtrip and it died. no throttle response. He took it to bikeshop and they did comp test with above results. I fiddle with it a bit and got it running. Fuel starvation was issue. I took it for a few little ride while I was waiting for my 12mm comp test adaptor to come in. Felt strong but not healthy strong.

I did test and came up with similar results. 155psi on 1,2,4. 35psi on #3.
Decided to do wet comp test on #3 to see if it was valve or ring issue. 1 tsp oil in cylinder and soak for min then spun it over with no sparkplug a few times. re test showed 85psi. Ring issue. After a "what do I have to loose" conversation with both sides of my brain I decided to try Seafoam in crankcase. about 5oz poured in. then put a little in the 1/4 tank of gas I had left. I took the bike for a few more short rides total of maybe 15-20 miles. All the time putting the list of parts I was going to remove for my project bike on a mental note pad.

Before putting bike away for another day/tear down I decided to check comp. on that cylinder again. 145psi!!...my guess is stuck ring. I will remove Seafoam from crankcase soon as it is turning oil very dark (directions on website say to do this within 50-100miles)

Take from this what you want.

There is no miracle cure for a broke engine but sometimes an injury can heal.
 
I have been a professional diesel mechanic for 12 years. Sea Foam is GREAT stuff. It stabilizes fuel, cleans up "varnished" old gas & fuel components, it cleans out oil galleies, etc. Is it a SUBSTITUTE for a complete carb cleaning??? No! Will it fix broken components? No!
Try it for yourself on something less valuable and loved than your cherished GS. Start with a lawn mower.

I just used it yesterday on a 97 Kawi Bayou 400 that had been sitting for who knows how long. It had very little gas in the tank, I poured about 1/3 of a can in & let it sit for 15 min, then coaxed it to start. It would barely idle. I just let it idle for a bit, slowly backing off the choke. Soon it was running good. Then I filled the tank 1/2 full with fresh gas. Runs pretty well now. This wheeler has had a hard life I think. Sea Foam works, if you let it & don't expect the impossible.
 
I have several times saved stuck rings on G.M. vehicle with G.M. Top engine cleaner. You pour it into the spark plug hole and let it sit for four hours then crank over to evacuate. We have also done this in the crank cases of Geo Metro three cylinders that were totally dead on compression. I just did it to my 199,000 Escort, runs fine now.

I have used SeaFoam and was told it worked as well; it did not. In fact I could not tell a discernible difference whatsoever.
 
Horse Iodine apparently frees stuck rings
my 86 yr old Uncle swears by it
 
jeffgs said:
I have several times saved stuck rings on G.M. vehicle with G.M. Top engine cleaner. You pour it into the spark plug hole and let it sit for four hours then crank over to evacuate. We have also done this in the crank cases of Geo Metro three cylinders that were totally dead on compression. I just did it to my 199,000 Escort, runs fine now.

I have used SeaFoam and was told it worked as well; it did not. In fact I could not tell a discernible difference whatsoever.
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My understanding is that sea foam is a fuel and oil treatment, not a corrosion cure. That's like saying I put paint thinner on the dash of my truck cuz I was told it would protect it. It didn't work at all!!!!!

When the can says lubes upper cylinder, that means that it won't dry it out, just like most starting fluids. It's not meant to free stuck rings or seized engines.
Just my $.02
 
The MSDS says Seafoam has 3 ingredients. Pale oil (diesel), Naptha (White gas or lighter fluid), and Isopropyl Alcohol. The MSDS gives the appropriate percentages of each. Draw your own conclusions.... I have a gallon of Coleman Fuel and IPA is cheap, I suspect the dIesel is the "top end lube". MEK might be more effective at dissolving varnish. Sta-bil MSDS is very vague, 95% petroleum distillate and 5% "additive".
 
Good detective work bobgroger. I like your style!

I talked my old man into trying Sea Foam when he was cleaning out a Model A tank. He had restored the Model A in the 80s and was "freshening it up"
He used 2 cans. The 1st he said did ok, but he was amazed by the results from the 2nd.

You guys can use whatever you like... I really like Sea Foam. I don't expect miracles. I wil keep using it.
In fact, as soon as my "new" tank arrives & I get the rust cleaned out, I plan on running Sea Foam through the carbs & fuel system before I do anything else to this GS I just got...
Good luck to all with your projects.
 
Yeah I posted the MSDS info yrs ago an no one is interested in making their own seafoam for cheap.
It does work but its no miracle
and use it in the suggested ratios a whle can in a tank is foolish
anything more than the suggested ratio a waste
 
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