Solid State Power Box

[Roger P.]

I am in contact with a couple of guys that have XS650's so I can learn more about their specifics. One of the guys is in the middle of a build and is planning on one of a few PMA upgrades for which I have suggested the Compufire.

Since just getting to a PMA design is a first step for these XS650 guys, I am treading lightly with saying that the cheap Chinese shunt R/R should be $hit canned in favor of a series R/R (although I can't really help myself in that regard either).

Many of the more serious builds include a Sparx or Hugh's Handbuilt PMA conversion. If they are going that far, it shouldn't be too hard to convince them that a quality reg/rec is worth the extra. On the other hand, many have successfully gone the el-cheapo route and home brewed a regulator/rectifier system using Radio Shack components and the old pack-of-cigarettes Chrysler voltage regulator commonly seen on Mopar firewalls from years back. Some have gone completely battery-less with a PMA and points. They are a resourceful bunch those XS guys, different vibe and intent than here certainly, but a very interesting crew.

 

[Guest]

Any progress on the install Mike?

My old boiler kicked off recently, so I have been "remodeling" more than working on the bikes, but I hope to do the install soon.

 

[posplayr]

Shipped three more SSPBs today for a total of 12 which includes one for a custom Yamaha XS650.

I still have a few more before having to order more parts.

 

[posplayr]

Shipped three more SSPBs today for a total of 12 which includes one for a custom Yamaha XS650.

I still have a few more before having to order more parts.

All three were delivered today by USPS.

 

[Guest]

received mine yesterday, VERY nice looking piece of kit. I won't be installing for a while yet, but i will update when i do. Thanks again jim for your work!

greg

 

[posplayr]

received mine yesterday, VERY nice looking piece of kit. I won't be installing for a while yet, but i will update when i do. Thanks again jim for your work!

greg

Greg,
Keep us posted with any progress. My shop is up to about 70 degrees during the day now so I can only imagine trying to work in 30 degrees.
Jim

 

[Guest]

30 would be warm at this point. we have had daytime highs in the teens for almost 2 months straight now. not very motivating for getting into the garage, and everytime i mention bringing the bike into the living room my wife freaks out. not very understanding of her.....

 

[c3powil]

I have a problem. I really want to order one of these this month as well as a sh-755 r/r, as was stated in my other thread, however, I looked under the side cover on my bike and I can't tell what to do. It doesn't look like the pictures I have seen in this thread.

I don't see my r/r, and it doesnt even look like I would have room for the SSPB. I'm not used to looking at this stuff, so maybe someone could help me out.

 

[Badooka]

Looks like someone already did a nice upgrade to your bike. If it's running fine, my advice is leave it alone.
Not wanting to take a sale from Pos by any means but that's my thoughts.

 

[posplayr]

I have a problem. I really want to order one of these this month as well as a sh-755 r/r, as was stated in my other thread, however, I looked under the side cover on my bike and I can't tell what to do. It doesn't look like the pictures I have seen in this thread.

I don't see my r/r, and it doesnt even look like I would have room for the SSPB. I'm not used to looking at this stuff, so maybe someone could help me out.

All of that look like stock hardware. There are two fuse boxes on with 4 position glass fuses and the other for accessory. Both can be removed. See the attached picture for an suggestion but you will have to look and measure yourself.

These glass fuse boxes need to be really cleaned as they have a real tendency to corrode, get hot and then when the plastic melts you have shorted circuits. Replacement of this type of fusebox was one of the original motivations for the SSPB.

SCI85 has a similar problem and has now mounted his SSPB but has not posted pictures yet.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showpost.php?p=2013498&postcount=41

 

[robertbarr]

These glass fuse boxes need to be really cleaned as they have a real tendency to corrode, get hot and then when the plastic melts you have shorted circuits.

One of our forum regulars -- pretty sure it was Redman -- had a nicely photographed dissection of his overcooked fusebox, and he showed clearly that it was the connections inside the fusebox that caused his meltdown. YMMV. So, no matter how clean the contacts appear to be, there could be problems hiding within.

That's what convinced me that a complete alternative was a smart move, a complete replacement of the whole mess.

 

[Guest]

SCI85 has a similar problem and has now mounted his SSPB but has not posted pictures yet.

I was hoping to finish it all up today but my lack of electrical skill has slowed me down. Regardless, here's a pic of the airbox showing the de-tabbing necessary and one with the SSPB mounted. On the 550, the fuse boxes and solenoid are on the right side of the small, stock, metal airbox and the battery is directly to the left so no space is available at all on the left side leaving few options for mounting anything. But, if you use pods or the K&N twins like I did, then that opens up your options. On mine, as you can see, I fashioned a flat metal plate to replace the stock airbox intake. I mounted the SH-775 there as it fit nicely. That leaves just enough room for the SSPB after removing all the old fuse box mounting tabs. Note that the space under the SSPB is taken up by the bikes rear master cylinder so even though it looks like space is there, in fact there is none.

I will post up more pics of the full install after Jim helps me understand the last of the wiring stuff.

 

[c3powil]

All of that look like stock hardware. There are two fuse boxes on with 4 position glass fuses and the other for accessory. Both can be removed. See the attached picture for an suggestion but you will have to look and measure yourself.

Ahhh, okay, thanks for clearing that up. I have no idea about anything electrical, so I'm learning as I go. If I'm removing both fuse boxes then i think I should have room. May go tabless and just drill through. Seems easy enough to just take a bit and drill through the plate a couple of times.

So where's my R/R? Eveyone else's pics are showing theirs.

 

[posplayr]

Ahhh, okay, thanks for clearing that up. I have no idea about anything electrical, so I'm learning as I go. If I'm removing both fuse boxes then i think I should have room. May go tabless and just drill through. Seems easy enough to just take a bit and drill through the plate a couple of times.

So where's my R/R? Eveyone else's pics are showing theirs.

Look in your manual pg 153; The R/R seems to be under your battery. But it appears that there is a separate R and R so maybe it was switched out already. The SH-775 is the better choice unless you already have one.

http://www.mtsac.edu/~cliff/storage/gs/GS750_Service_Manual_early8valve.pdf

Email me at Solidstatepowerbox@gmail.com when you are ready to order.

 

[ACR]

I don't know why not, I would need to get into the details of how they are wired, but first things first.

I'll keep the R/R separate. It should not matter if your burn your stator with a shunt R/R or keep it cool with the SERIES models. The SSPB should not care.

I'll keep you in mind for testing. At the moment I have measured the currents on my ESD, and am going to load/stress test with an instrumented tester/short simulator.

Not sure you will want to short your harness out to stress test the unit?

Has there been an installation to an 1150 yet? I'm in the middle of a R/R install and would like to include a SSPB. I'm wary of being the guinea pig in an experiment though as electrical is not my strong suit.

 

[posplayr]

Has there been an installation to an 1150 yet? I'm in the middle of a R/R install and would like to include a SSPB. I'm wary of being the guinea pig in an experiment though as electrical is not my strong suit.

Look for Civil rock's build

 

[salty_monk]

Anyone else go a Skunk yet? I had a look the other weekend, things are pretty tight under there. Might have to mount it where the airbox used to be somehow...

 

[posplayr]

Anyone else go a Skunk yet? I had a look the other weekend, things are pretty tight under there. Might have to mount it where the airbox used to be somehow...

Ed has a Cooley with full sized fusebox and SH775. But apparently it is different to a skunk

 

[salty_monk]

Nessism? That's good... Once he has it figured out I know where to go to fit mine...

 

[rustybronco]

Dan, if it doesn't fit on a Skunk you can always update to the later (1980?) 'E' panel.

This is a 1979 GS1000L panel. It might work as well.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d44/rustybronco/P_20140313_212509.jpg