Son of a..... Broke My Primary Drive Gear

[Turbo Mike]

Im with you Turbo Mike- wheelies, burnouts, excessive horsepower and speed are essential the enjoyment of my life.
Be safe but have fun!

I really couldnt have said it better. Its what I enjoy doing and happen to be pretty good at... life wouldnt be the same without doing what I do with the toys. Anyone can wheelie an on/off road or a newer jap bike.... it takes some courage and skill to wheelie a shafted GS1100... thats half the fun lol

 

[5RON5]

What a very very nice car!!!!!!!!! Beautiful!~~~~~~~~

 

[jonr]

Turbo Mike,

Here's 1/2 of what you need: bevel gear and drive shaft

You might ask the seller if he's got the matching beveled gear. If he has not split the cases and does not intend to part out the lower end, then you have a problem.

Good luck-
J

 

[Nessism]

Those twin-turbo ZX's are VERY sweet!! It's not that I don't like the new Z ... there's just something missing in its styling, and of course the new one is "dog slow!"

The new Z-car uses the VQ35 engine which is one of the best naturally aspired engines ever made - check out Ward's Auto World's Best Engines listing if you don't belive me.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3165/is_1_39/ai_97179292/pg_8

NISSAN MOTOR CO. LTD. 3.5L DOHC V-6

NISSAN 3.5L V-6

The Steelers of the 1970s. The Forty-Niners of the 1980s. The Yankees of any decade. Michael Schumacher. The Red Wings.

Nissan Motor Co. Ltd.'s "VQ" V-6 is beginning to approach the point where we're comfortable mentioning it in the same company. A dynasty.

Except for the VQ, no single engine, regardless of changes from one generation to the next, has amassed a string of nine consecutive Ward's 10 Best Engines awards. Although almost all mainstream automotive engines are designed for a long production run, precious few ever enjoy benchmark status, even when they're the newest engine in the market. Nissan's VQ continues as a benchmark nine years after its launch.

It's a remarkable feat, readers, one that bears re-emphasis: the very first VQ available in the U.S., a 3L DOHC V-6, was a winner in Ward's first 10 Best Engines competition in 1995. In the eight subsequent years that include this 2003 win, a VQ V-6 has won a Best Engines spot every time. We like to believe it was divine insight nine years ago when we identified the original 3L VQ as something special - but in truth, it was hard NOT to know that engine was special. Nissan engineers got it right - incredibly, resolutely right - from the very beginning, the day they signed off on the final design for what was to become the best V-6 engine the auto industry's ever seen.

Today, although Nissan has dropped the original 3L in favor of the brawnier 3.5L VQ, the engine family's unique qualities remain: an acute attention to detail, starting with microfinished internals and a goal to seriously reduce reciprocating mass. At its launch, the 3L VQ weighed an astounding 108 lbs. (49 kg) less than the iron-block 3L V-6 it replaced - some 20 lbs. (9 kg) was shaved from the upper engine alone - and the design reduced friction losses by 20%.

The VQ has been improved several times since that groundbreaking original, to the point that Nissan's 3.5L VQ still is the V-6 the competition wishes it had created. Although we're convinced a noticeable portion of the original 3L engine's supernatural smoothness and NVH has been sacrificed in the '02-model boring and stroking to 3.5L, the VQ remains a convincing combination of power, broad torque delivery and refinement.

We're still flabbergasted at how easy it was for pragmatic Nissan engineers - convinced that the sweet 3L VQ wasn't enough for the power-hungry U.S. market - to abandon their much-acclaimed baby and punch it out to 3.5L.

The "new" 3.5L VQ is incredibly versatile, currently being used in seven different horsepower ratings and four torque specifications. The company uses it in no less than nine distinct vehicles - everything from the all-new Murano SUV (see p.51) to the muscular 350Z, with three upscale Infiniti-badged models to boot.

 

[Turbo Mike]

Turbo Mike,

Here's 1/2 of what you need: bevel gear and drive shaft

You might ask the seller if he's got the matching beveled gear. If he has not split the cases and does not intend to part out the lower end, then you have a problem.

Good luck-
J

Dont have to split the cases... take the shifter/cover off and 4 bolts and the whole drive gear assy comes right out. Dont even have to pull the driveshaft.....

 

[Turbo Mike]

VQ35.

Thats nice and all but you ever drive one? In stock form the car is totally gutless. Sure its quick, but you dont even feel it, you have to watch the speedo to make sure you're accelerating. The whole driving experience sux. Pedal feel is like playing cruzin USA, no road feedback in the steering, and the ride is far from feeling like the "true sports car" its supposed to be.

Secondly the tranny, driveshaft, and rear axles are made out of glass. One or two real hard shifts or clutch drops, you're replacing something.

My buddy sean has an orange one. He babies it. Lets other people hammer it every so often for fun. Already killed a left axle and now 3rd gear just went.

Another buddy, derek, bought one brand new. At 44k miles, one of the camshafts disintegrated and locked the motor up and totally destroyed it.

Both my own personal driving experience, its lack of "Z car" style, and its complete lack of driveline toughness, I really dont see how you say its a "good" car. Whoopdy do, the motor is rated good when its brand new by some magazine.

 

[Arkaloid]

Turbo Mike,

Here's 1/2 of what you need: bevel gear and drive shaft

You might ask the seller if he's got the matching beveled gear. If he has not split the cases and does not intend to part out the lower end, then you have a problem.

Good luck-
J

He does not have it. i bought it the other day for mine.

 

[Nessism]

Thats nice and all but you ever drive one? In stock form the car is totally gutless. Sure its quick, but you dont even feel it, you have to watch the speedo to make sure you're accelerating. The whole driving experience sux. Pedal feel is like playing cruzin USA, no road feedback in the steering, and the ride is far from feeling like the "true sports car" its supposed to be.

Secondly the tranny, driveshaft, and rear axles are made out of glass. One or two real hard shifts or clutch drops, you're replacing something.

My buddy sean has an orange one. He babies it. Lets other people hammer it every so often for fun. Already killed a left axle and now 3rd gear just went.

Another buddy, derek, bought one brand new. At 44k miles, one of the camshafts disintegrated and locked the motor up and totally destroyed it.

Both my own personal driving experience, its lack of "Z car" style, and its complete lack of driveline toughness, I really dont see how you say its a "good" car. Whoopdy do, the motor is rated good when its brand new by some magazine.

I never said it's a great car, I was just countering your comment that the "car is gutless" which implies the motor sucks - which it doesn't. And while I haven't driven a Z-car before, I've driven every other Nissan with the VQ variant engine, including the G35 coupe (sister car to the Z), and I can say that it IS a GREAT engine and it doesn't have any inherant weaknesses.

 

[Turbo Mike]

He does not have it. i bought it the other day for mine.

Damn damn damn.....

 

[SqDancerLynn1]

Keep & eye out on ebay another one will show up. The GS 1000/1100 are the same ?????? don't know. I do know The GS850 is different & will not fit the larger GS1000/1100

 

[koolaid_kid]

I'm getting dizzy reading this thread. I can't tell if it is about a shaft drive Suz, fast cars and bikes, or destroying equipment! [-o<:wink:
I have the second, do the third far too frequently for my liking, and work dilligently at avoiding the first.
I just wonder where this will end up. Hopefully with another (safe) GS back on the road.

 

[Planecrazy]

I never said it's a great car, I was just countering your comment that the "car is gutless" which implies the motor sucks - which it doesn't. And while I haven't driven a Z-car before, I've driven every other Nissan with the VQ variant engine, including the G35 coupe (sister car to the Z), and I can say that it IS a GREAT engine and it doesn't have any inherant weaknesses.

Let me jump back into this "mini-debate" by stating a few simple facts ... First, the new 350Z IS a dog slow sorry excuse for a sports car ... for two main reasons.

First, whether because the new engine is weak or because of poor gearing, it doesn't turn "sports car like" numbers in acceleration, although the car mags generally praise it's handling. Remember, I utterly embarassed one from two consecutive stoplights with an 8000 pound diesel truck (with several passengers aboard and the air conditioning on)!! The guy in the car was revving his motor for all it is worth to get the best "jump" he could when the light turned green ... I "brake-torqued" my "tuned" Excursion to 2000 rpm to get the turbo spinning up as the light was about to change, and the second time left two strips of burned rubber on the ground before connecting back up with the pavement and STILL toasted his butt!

Second, although it's not an ugly car, it's just "missing" that special something that great sports cars possess ... there's no "WOW!" factor.

Now having said that, you should also know that I AM a fan of Nissans in general. They make superb vehicles and my family has owned several and been extremely satisfied with them. The new Z will eventually be a respectable sports car, but only after Nissan uses some "gray matter" and pumps the engine output up to where it ought to be on their "premier" sports car...

Regards,

 

[Nessism]

Now having said that, you should also know that I AM a fan of Nissans in general. They make superb vehicles and my family has owned several and been extremely satisfied with them. The new Z will eventually be a respectable sports car, but only after Nissan uses some "gray matter" and pumps the engine output up to where it ought to be on their "premier" sports car...

Regards,

Nissan built the current Z-car to hit a price point - $28k to be exact. It's is not a "premier" sports car but rather a stylish cruiser. You guys are expecting way too much from it. Fact is that cars like the Z don't do squat for the corporate bottom line. They are attention grabers due to the way they look. The performance is not embarassing which is all Nissan wanted from the vehicle - at least at the time they developed it. Time to relax now.

 

[49er]

Great thread guys. I thought that this site was about the love of GS's not how quickly we can destoy a shafty, but hey, each to his own.
Nissan's first Z was the 1969 Datsun 240Z (P510). It weighed 2355lbs and put out 150bhp. The 2006 Nissan 350Z (track version) weighs 3339lbs and puts out 300bhp. The 350Z is quite heavy considering that it has many Ali and composite components. The fact that it has an integral roll cage adds to the increased weight. Comparing power to weight, the 240Z produces 1hp per 15.7lbs to the 350Z's 1hp per 11.13lbs. This equals a 41% gain in performance from a 46% increase in capacity over 37 years of development. Was it worth the effort? Sure it is for the average sports coupe buff. Surely the relevant question is how much are you prepared to pay? When you want a serious increase in horsepower with gauranteed reliability you must seriously increase the cubes. Then the weight goes up and the handing starts to suffer, but thats another story.
I'll settle for my 850's 1hp per 7.17lbs of performance with average handling and wind in my face.

 

[Planecrazy]

Nissan built the current Z-car to hit a price point - $28k to be exact. It's is not a "premier" sports car but rather a stylish cruiser. You guys are expecting way too much from it.

While I don't dispute that Nissan did as much platform and component sharing as they could to make the Z more profitable, I disagree regarding expectations. Two reasons ... First, the Z series has a mostly reputable history of providing sports car level performance at a reasonable price and, Second, because the Z evolved into a VERY competent performer with a Twin-Turbo monster that was superior in many ways to the Corvette is was sold against only a decade ago. There is no reason at all why previous Z owners (and sports car enthusiasts in general) shouldn't have expected the new Z to be at least the equal of, and preferably a superior evolution of the breed. Unfortunately it isn't, though the potential is there...

Fact is that cars like the Z don't do squat for the corporate bottom line. They are attention grabers due to the way they look. The performance is not embarassing which is all Nissan wanted from the vehicle - at least at the time they developed it.

Cars like the Z do EVERYTHING for the corporate bottom line BECAUSE they are attention grabbers (or at least are supposed to be). They are the "excitement" vehicles that often draw people into the showroom, where hopefully other more accessable (to the average person) cars are available to sell that have ties to the "supercar." I remember when I bought my first new car ... a Mazda MX-6. I enjoyed sitting in the high performance RX-7 (out of my price range) and appreciated that there were cues from the sports car represented in my MX-6. I also appreciated that the MX-6 offered relatively good performance and a "fun" factor that reminded me of the RX-7 ... so I bought an MX-6.

The performance of the current Z isn't embarassing for a car with a name other than "Z," but is a complete disappointment to anybody who knows what the "Z" name used to stand for. It's not a bad car by any means ... it just doesn't live up to its heritage, that's all.

Regards,

 

[koolaid_kid]

I had one of the original 240Zs, a 73 to be exact. I drove it out of the showroom for $4500. It had air and a 4 speed, and an AM/FM radio. Shoulder belts because it was the law. Nothing else. It outperformed every other car in its day, and was the cause of the demise of MG and Triumph. But it was still a minimalistic car. Drove the wheels off of it and loved it. Especially after I put headers on it and retuned the carbs.
But I would not go back, not after having cars with T-Tops, power everything, cruise control, and all that.

 

[RobGS850L]

I think if you paid less than 230 bucks for the whole da#n bike I think 230 for the gears ain't such a bad thing. Crap I'd buy a running anything (almost anything :wink for 230 bucks.
And now back to our previously scheduled highjack.

 

[Planecrazy]

And now back to our previously scheduled highjack.

As my wife would say, "Life as it should be!":lol::lol::wink: