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Stator purchase

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I need to purchase a stator for a 1982 gs 1100 glz. Is there a recommended brand or store that is recommended? I remember a while back most were buying from a place the had a guys first name. Like Ricks???
 
Just a heads up on choice of Stators, I just had a 2 year old Electrosport fail, and that's with one of the good Honda reg/recs on the bike. I've had one of Steve's stators and they look top notch, it's been in the bike for a few months now with no issues. Ricks always has a good track record.
 
azr said:
Just a heads up on choice of Stators, I just had a 2 year old Electrosport fail, and that's with one of the good Honda reg/recs on the bike. I've had one of Steve's stators and they look top notch, it's been in the bike for a few months now with no issues. Ricks always has a good track record.
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And what makes you think that it was not the R/R that caused the stator to fail?

The electrosport stator with a shunt R/R are probably more prone to failure? The are wired for 20% extra power which is only going to occur when the bike is below full RPM (say 2500 RPM). How fast you are going at 2500 RPM is anyones guess, but at slow speed there will be reduced cooling efficiency to deal with the extra power.

None of this matters with a proper SERIES R/R which the honda is NOT. Considering the Honda as the king among turds (i.e. SHUNT R/Rs), despite it's superior reliability, they are not perfect.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...da-R-R-Users-Poll&highlight=honda+stator+poll
 
Grimly said:
I unrecall: is there an ongoing poll for users of SH-775 r/rs?
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Same link as posted.

This is a poll at Duanages Suggestion to determine what the statistics are for burned stators with Honda 6 wire R/R's.

I hope everybody that has any experience with a Honda unit participates. This is important information to know when trying to figure out your best approach to solving charging system problems.

These are the three polls to help get some statistics on Field information about charging systems.

"Honda R/R Users Poll"

Poll for Compufire R/R Users

Fried Stator Poll
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posplayr said:
And what makes you think that it was not the R/R that caused the stator to fail?

The electrosport stator with a shunt R/R are probably more prone to failure? The are wired for 20% extra power which is only going to occur when the bike is below full RPM (say 2500 RPM). How fast you are going at 2500 RPM is anyones guess, but at slow speed there will be reduced cooling efficiency to deal with the extra power.

None of this matters with a proper SERIES R/R which the honda is NOT. Considering the Honda as the king among turds (i.e. SHUNT R/Rs), despite it's superior reliability, they are not perfect.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...da-R-R-Users-Poll&highlight=honda+stator+poll
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Nothing is perfect but until the new Series R/R came along I always thought the Honda's were the best thing going compared to the stock R/R or Electrosport R/R's etc... It's not my bike that had the issue, I tested his stator and found it to be bad but did not have time to test the honda R/R as well. Both of my own bikes have Honda R/R in them and have never had an issue and that's over 20'000kms on each bike and as well I know of 3 other GSes in the area that I put Honda R/R into years ago and they are still charging fine. But again, nothing is a guarantee that's for sure. I'm sure his mechanic will test the Honda R/R and if it's gone I would recommend an SH775 to him as we can get them for $105 up here in Canada and Duanages Honda R/R gets to the door for $85 with the crappy dollar right now.
 
azr said:
Nothing is perfect but until the new Series R/R came along I always thought the Honda's were the best thing going compared to the stock R/R or Electrosport R/R's etc... It's not my bike that had the issue, I tested his stator and found it to be bad but did not have time to test the honda R/R as well. Both of my own bikes have Honda R/R in them and have never had an issue and that's over 20'000kms on each bike and as well I know of 3 other GSes in the area that I put Honda R/R into years ago and they are still charging fine. But again, nothing is a guarantee that's for sure. I'm sure his mechanic will test the Honda R/R and if it's gone I would recommend an SH775 to him as we can get them for $105 up here in Canada and Duanages Honda R/R gets to the door for $85 with the crappy dollar right now.
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I'm not questioning why you have a Honda on the bike at all; there are valid reasons. I was however questioning why you were making the assumption that a bad stator was due to a stator fault.

When you get the stator out have a look at it to see if there is any obvious heating, if it is generally toasted then it is likely an R/R problem. If there is a single isolated burned coil, you could easily conclude manufacturing variables causing a weak spot that even the Honda over stressed.
 
Is there a clear way of testing the Honda R/R? I did look at the suzuki manual for testing the stock one but I'm not sure that it would apply to the Honda.
 
azr said:
Is there a clear way of testing the Honda R/R? I did look at the suzuki manual for testing the stock one but I'm not sure that it would apply to the Honda.
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The diode tests in the GS stator (Phase C) tests are going to work, but not sure about the rest. The only other way is to see if it regulates properly. It is quite probable that the stator going bad and teh SHUNT regulation (which is the R/R's fault) even though the R/R still appears to be fine. SHUNT regulating stress everything.
 
azr said:
Is there a clear way of testing the Honda R/R? I did look at the suzuki manual for testing the stock one but I'm not sure that it would apply to the Honda.
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A fairly reliable seat of the pants way is to measure the pin-pin resistances of a known-good one and draw up a chart. Compare to the suspect one.
 
Yes, I thought of that. Again it's not my bike and he's taking it to his own mechanic but when he gets it back I'm going to do exactly that and keep it for reference.
 
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