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Tell me about smoothbores please

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I found a set of VM33-A4 carbs on Craigslist a while back. They were nearly new and very cheap so I picked them up even though I don't have anything to put them on.

Looking at Sudcos site, they seem to be for an 1100GS. The guy I bought them from said they came off his friends Suzuki drag bike so I'm guessing it was one of those.
I've kept them on a shelf in my living room as a decoration and to annoy my fiancee, but now that I've entered the world of Suzuki I would like the find a nice GS1100ES to go with my 700ES.

Would these be worth installing or are they strictly a race carb?

Pros and Cons of these carbs? Are they worth much? I looked on ebay but didn't see any like them.
 
All the VM smoothbores are valuable. I just saw a set of 29s on Ebay that hadn't hit the reserve at $585.

That being said, I believe 33s are for a modified motor, Stage 2 or 3 build (Cams, header, etc)
 
exhondaguy said:
I found a set of VM33-A4 carbs on Craigslist a while back. They were nearly new and very cheap so I picked them up even though I don't have anything to put them on.

Looking at Sudcos site, they seem to be for an 1100GS. The guy I bought them from said they came off his friends Suzuki drag bike so I'm guessing it was one of those.
I've kept them on a shelf in my living room as a decoration and to annoy my fiancee, but now that I've entered the world of Suzuki I would like the find a nice GS1100ES to go with my 700ES.

Would these be worth installing or are they strictly a race carb?

Pros and Cons of these carbs? Are they worth much? I looked on ebay but didn't see any like them.
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They really suck. Worthless, and impossible to tune.
Send them to me, I will dispose of them free of charge.
 
Big T said:
All the VM smoothbores are valuable. I just saw a set of 29s on Ebay that hadn't hit the reserve at $585.

That being said, I believe 33s are for a modified motor, Stage 2 or 3 build (Cams, header, etc)
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29mm bring retarded money.
33mm are not even in the same park as far as price.
where's ray?
he's a 33mm guy.
he can tell you all about them.
i myself like the rs series with the pumps..killer carbs and easy to tune and make good smooth horsepower.
you can put 33's on a stock 110016v.
the sets ive had worked very well as far as making horepower.
 
Keep hold of them for a while... I have a nice set of 29's I just rebuilt and run great on my bike... I might want to trade if my 29's can't feed the motor I am building :)
 
Not to thread jack but what is the realistic value of a set of VM29's? Got a set with my POS 1000S and was thinking about ditching them to help finance the restoration.

Just to confirm, these are the carbs...

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those look like 29's, I'll rebuild a set of 26's for you and throw a few bucks your way if you want to trade those 29's.
 
exhondaguy said:
I found a set of VM33-A4 carbs on Craigslist a while back. They were nearly new and very cheap so I picked them up even though I don't have anything to put them on.

Looking at Sudcos site, they seem to be for an 1100GS. The guy I bought them from said they came off his friends Suzuki drag bike so I'm guessing it was one of those.
I've kept them on a shelf in my living room as a decoration and to annoy my fiancee, but now that I've entered the world of Suzuki I would like the find a nice GS1100ES to go with my 700ES.

Would these be worth installing or are they strictly a race carb?

Pros and Cons of these carbs? Are they worth much? I looked on ebay but didn't see any like them.
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33's would be to big for your bike unless it is super suped up.

best bet is to sell them or trade. if you are not worried about useing period parts then flat sides would be your best carb for your bike.
 
i got 400.00 for a set of 29's around ten years ago..
kehien or however its spelled still sells 29's as far as i know.
 
*****I've kept them on a shelf in my living room as a decoration and to annoy my fiancee, but now that I've entered the world of Suzuki I would like the find a nice GS1100ES to go with my 700ES. *****


he was asking if the 33's would work on a gs1100es.
if that is correct...
the 33's will work fine on a piped stock motored 110016v.
 
blowerbike said:
*****I've kept them on a shelf in my living room as a decoration and to annoy my fiancee, but now that I've entered the world of Suzuki I would like the find a nice GS1100ES to go with my 700ES. *****


he was asking if the 33's would work on a gs1100es.
if that is correct...
the 33's will work fine on a piped stock motored 110016v.
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This is what I meant.
I would like to find a clean 1100 and maybe do carbs, a period exhaust maybe Hagon shocks. Nothing that couldn't be removed in an afternoon to be put back to stock.
 
I had seen them over $400 on ebay. I'll tell you what I have in mine though. From a local guy, I paid $100 knowing they were going to need plenty of work. After replacing EVERYTHING except the slides, I had another $240 payment to Z1. I replaced everything, though. gaskets, brass floats, jet needle, needle jets, air jets.. etc...

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That might give you a guide...
 
dardoonk said:
I had seen them over $400 on ebay. I'll tell you what I have in mine though. From a local guy, I paid $100 knowing they were going to need plenty of work. After replacing EVERYTHING except the slides, I had another $240 payment to Z1. I replaced everything, though. gaskets, brass floats, jet needle, needle jets, air jets.. etc...

PICT2704.jpg


That might give you a guide...
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did you piant yours? What type of paint?
 
Yes, I was too lazy to sit there with a Dremel polishing them like I intended, so I thought painting the body black might flow with the paint scheme on the motor. You can't tell real well from the pic, but the engine is silver everywhere except the fins, so I thought matching the carbs up would look better than just grey.

I used the same Harley Davidson engine paint I used on the block. It doesn't hold up to gas as well as I hoped, but they don't leak so it doesn't matter.
 
Wow, thanks for the manual! I'm going to get educated on these things now.
Seems like they are worth hanging on to. Now I just need to get the bike to go with.
 
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exhondaguy said:
Wow, thanks for the manual! I'm going to get educated on these things now.
Seems like they are worth hanging on to. Now I just need to get the bike to go with.
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Wait a minute.. You've got a set of 29 smoothies, and no bike?? :eek: You should be fined by the UJM Police, forced to send those carbs to my home, and buy a GS!

Priorities, priorities...:)
 
dardoonk said:
Wait a minute.. You've got a set of 29 smoothies, and no bike?? :eek: You should be fined by the UJM Police, forced to send those carbs to my home, and buy a GS!

Priorities, priorities...:)
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No, I have a set of 33 smoothies and no bike to put them on.

I do have a totally stock 700es, though I've had these carbs for way longer than that.
I've just been using them as a decoration. They really tie the decor in my living room together.
I got curious about them when VMs were mentioned a few times on here.
 
Mmmmm So keep what you have a s u be kicking ureself down the track

Mmmmm So keep what you have a s u be kicking ureself down the track

33's are good for a average of 10hp and will run on a almost standard 1100. Just a pipe and GOOD airfilter should be a nice ride. 3 yrs ago a set of 29's got sold for $700 au here so mine are staying where they are.
 
The 33s are actually about the best smoothbores you can put on a stock motor with only a pipe 1100 or 1150. The throttle response & bottom end are good. The midrange is great, & the top end is AWESOME! The 33s are worth about 300-400 bucks on average & if in REALLY nice shape, as in NEW, 450. Find an ES & have a nice pair of bikes. I'm guessing your 700 is blue & white? My first ever NEW bike was a blue & white 700ES. The 33s will need about a 125 main jet with the needle one clip lean from the middle to start with to get you close with just a pipe & a set of K&Ns. Good luck & if you ever want to sell the 33s I got first dibs cause no one else called dibs! LOL!!! Ray.
 
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