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Thanks to everyone, R/R, Shindengen 238-12

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I am writing to Thank anyone and everyone who has replied to my topics on which Shindengen will work? I bought this Shindengen 238-12 1.6 on Ebay for $4.95 and got another one from a vt500 for $5.00 from the same guy (same wiring) so my total with shipping came to $13.80 for two. I wired this up as you members suggested and at idle, I get about 12.4 volts and at 5,000 rpm,s I get about 13.4 volts. I did have to disconnect the third stator wire because I was getting way over 14 volts at 5,000 rpm's. The only other thing I had to do to make it fit my mounting holes was to cut some of the fins away because they were hitting my airbox. Took about half an hour and works great! I have to say even though things get repeated on here that you guys are AWESOME and without you, some of us would still be burning stuff up or just saying piss on it, put it on Ebay and let someone else worry about it but some of us I guess are head strong and dont quit till it works! Thanks Again! I appreciate any help you have given! Jake
 
shindengen 238

shindengen 238

I hooked the 3 yellow wires, well actually 2 of them to the stator, one red/white striped to the battery and the other red/white striped to the red wiring harness red wire. I then connected one green wire to the negative side of the battery and the other green to ground on the frame. The black wire I connected to the taillight,running light positive side. If I didnt answer your question correctly then let me know, I will go out to my bike and guide you through it or you can call me at 570-765-2400, let it ring twice and hang up that way I can use up my minutes and it doesnt cost yopu anything. I live in Pa. and go to bed around 10:00 p.m, so if you call around 6-8:00 p.m. I'll get back to you! Jake
 
Jake,

The reason I asked is that you described having to leave one phase disconnected because of the high voltage. The sense wire should detect the voltage and adjust the output accordingly.

Gary
 
You shouldn't have to remove a stator wire to get the proper voltage.

I recently installed a shindengen from a kawasaki, and it holds at a steady 13.8 to 14.0 volts with all three stator wires attached.

I had another one that didn't work properly, it would allow the voltage to continuously rise with rpm to about 16.5 or 17 volts. Maybe you have a bad one, try the other one you bought...


Matt
 
shindengen 238-12

shindengen 238-12

Hi, I heard of people hooking the black wire to the tailight (parking light not brake light side) so thats where I connected it but not sure if thats right??? I did notice that when I turn my turn signal on, then all of my lights blink with it, not as bright but as if the turn signal is pulling alot of juice from the battery. Should the black wire be connected to the positive side on my fuse block where the philips head screws are at the bottom?? I didnt connect my ground wires to the black/white striped wire that my old R/R was connected to, dont know if that matters?? Thanks! Jake
 
The sense wire should be hooked to something that comes alive with the ignition key in the on position such as the orange/white wire to the coils or the wire going to the brake light. The wire to the tail light will only work when the lights are on, if yours is on all the time then that should be alright. It should charge around 16.5 - 17.0 volts @ 5,000 rpm with all three stator wires connected and no sense wire and drop to high 14's with the sense wire connected.
 
Re: shindengen 238-12

Re: shindengen 238-12

jake8 said:
Hi, I heard of people hooking the black wire to the tailight (parking light not brake light side) so thats where I connected it but not sure if thats right??? I did notice that when I turn my turn signal on, then all of my lights blink with it, not as bright but as if the turn signal is pulling alot of juice from the battery. Should the black wire be connected to the positive side on my fuse block where the philips head screws are at the bottom?? I didnt connect my ground wires to the black/white striped wire that my old R/R was connected to, dont know if that matters?? Thanks! Jake
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It sounds like the sense wire is working but is detecting a voltage drop to the tail light. Or the "two phase" arrangement is letting the voltage drop at the battery when the turn signals are on.

The screws on the fuse block are on all the time. Apparently you need a switched source so that's out. I would look for a source that is as close to the battery positive potential as possible and still be switched.

One other thing... I just re-read your original post and you said that the voltage was going way over 14V with all three phases hooked up. If it was as high as 14.6V, I'd say that's fine.
 
shindengen

shindengen

Tomorrow I will hook the third stator wire up but I thought I read somewhere that the voltage I was getting would boil my battery over?? I just dont want to mess something up and end up buying other parts because of frying something! I will post back tomorrow night and let you know how I make out! Thanks! Jake
 
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Well I hooked up the third stator wire and at 5,000 rpm's I get well over 15 volts. With the third wire disconnected I get about 13.9. Should I try connecting the black wire to the fuse block somewhere or try the other R/R? It seems to be fine with only two stator wires but I dont want to be stuck somewhere on a long trip because the battery isnt charged. Thanks! Jake
 
I wonder what the voltage is at the point that you connected the sense wire. It looks like it's regulating but at too high a voltage. If the sense point is low in voltage, the regulator will try to bring it up by applying more voltage.
 
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Are you saying to put the black wire to a different positive side of the ignition like the fuse block? I'm really stumped here but determined to get it right. This bike was a total mess when I got it and with only 6,500 miles for an 86', I want to keep it running as good as possible. Jake
 
What I was wondering is what the voltage reads at the point that you connected the sense wire. Another way to check for voltage drop is to place the negative meter probe on the point that you attached the sense wire and place the positive meter probe on the positive battery terminal. There should be very little voltage (say .5V or less). If it is more than that, then you need to look for a switched source that is closer to the same voltage as the positive battery terminal. Is the ground wire from the regulator connected to a good ground?
 
Red Wires to Battery & Harness is Incorrect!!!

Red Wires to Battery & Harness is Incorrect!!!

jake8 said:
I hooked the 3 yellow wires, well actually 2 of them to the stator, one red/white striped to the battery and the other red/white striped to the red wiring harness red wire....
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jake8,

This red wire hookup directly to the battery while the other red wire is connected to the harness will eliminate the function of the Main fuse. 8O With this hookup you have no Main fuse protection. :!:

See Caution Wiring Honda R/Rs with "Extra" Wires for details.
 
shindengen

shindengen

Thanks for the info and the link. I will be disconnecting the wire to the battery or would it be okay to put an inline fuse in it as the other guy did on that link you gave me? I still only have two stator wires hooked up but havent tried running the +12 wire anywhere else! Thanks! Jake
 
You're welcome. :)

You can either:

1. Put in an inline fuse as Sandy did.
2. Connect both R/R red wires to the wiring harness red wire.
3. Remove the red wire from the battery and cap it. The single wire to the harness should be adequate for the charging current while retaining the protection of the fuse.

Note that if you use the inline fuse, the Main fuse in the fuse box is still not required (bypassed). The inline fuse then becomes the Main fuse. If it blows and you still have the original Main fuse in the fuse box it will take over the circuit and it will also blow.

I prefer a hookup keeping the normal Main fuse in the fuse box and requiring only one easy fuse replacement.
 
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I will take your advice and wire them together. I just wish I could hook the sense wire to something that I could use the third stator wire. Maybe wiring the two red wires together will help with the high voltage. I live in Pa. and it kinda looks like the riding season is getting closer to an end, but I hope not. I like to go out on the warm nov. dec. days and go for a spin and see everyone look at you like your nuts! LOL!! Thanks Again! Jake
 
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the third wire from the stator was supposed to feed directly into the headlight. Maybe I have the totally wrong idea (or wrong bike model)?
 
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