Tuning setup

[posplayr]

Openness is not always a prerequisite when discussing certain activities. One can never tell how things turn even by the name of the thread.


Ed

Well you know when a jetting thread starts with the least significant factor and ignores the most significant, you know it is going to meander.

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?226128-CV-Carb-Turning-Procedure

 

[andrews gs]

Yes sir but I got what I was looking for tho first post where so may judgemental and emotional people post.

 

[JJ]

Sorry your butt hurt jj. Didn't mean to hurt your fragil emotions with just asking a question. Thanks for your little childish rant it was cute.

Go back and finish high school, kid. Learn to spell and use proper sentence structure, then get back to me.

 

[gs45082]

Loving this thread haha! What Mains are you running? That's your issue if you're having problems at WOT/high rpm. Ideally I'd like to know everything Matt says below. Also, how do your plugs look?

My jetting is:

47.5 pilot jets. I believe this is stock for Canadian models, but that is not confirmed. It is one size up from stock US jetting from what I have seen
Mixture screws are 3.25 turns out
Stock needle on the 4th groove from the top. Canadian models still came with adjustable needles in '82, they have a much more gradual taper than Dynojet needles and are nicer for tuning.
142.5 main jets

Has a 140 mph tachometer upgrade.

^Sorry but when your sig says things like this you're going to be the butt of a lot of jokes around here. But if you want your bike to run good, there's not a better place on the net to find out how.

 

[andrews gs]

Lol awesome best come back is the grammar nice look run on sentence ahahaha no period

 

[Guest]

Lol awesome best come back is the grammar nice look run on sentence ahahaha no period

OMG dude, these guys are still trying to help you.
Posplayr posted this.

http://www.factorypro.com/tech_tuning_procedures/tuning_carbtune,CV,high_rpm_engines.html

Did you even look at it?

 

[andrews gs]

No sorry I didn't even see it thank you for pointing that out sir.

 

[Steve]

OMG dude, these guys are still trying to help you.

Yeah, there seem to be a couple die-hards, but most of us tuned out a couple days ago.

I just stopped by to see which direction it has gone, I wasn't disappointed. :-\\\

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[andrews gs]

I do appreciate all the help everyone has givin me thank you. This was fun.

 

[Spyder]

All of the childish banter aside. Just making sure I'm clear. Because my bike is loud, I'm a "moron" too? Hmmm, I never made the connection...

Nice forum attitude...

 

[JJ]

All of the childish banter aside. Just making sure I'm clear. Because my bike is loud, I'm a "moron" too? Hmmm, I never made the connection...

Nice forum attitude...

I don't know about being a moron. You may be a pretty intelligent person. However, if your bike is obnoxiously loud, as in straight pipes or an un- (or barely) baffled header, you qualify as a jerk in my book.

I don't mind the nice "growl" of a baffled performance header, but open pipes are silly things used by immature, insecure, attention whores.

 

[Spyder]

Well, I do have the Baffle in my V&H, there is just no packing in it. Not on purpose, I got it that way, and I personally like the growl it has. Obnoxiously loud? I don't think so, but others could I suppose.

I just think this guy got jumped for little to no reason. He's not riding with open headers down MY block...

 

[JJ]

Well, I do have the Baffle in my V&H, there is just no packing in it. Not on purpose, I got it that way, and I personally like the growl it has. Obnoxiously loud? I don't think so, but others could I suppose.

I just think this guy got jumped for little to no reason. He's not riding with open headers down MY block...

That's the same as no baffle. It's obnoxious and childish on a street bike.

No, he may be on your block, but he is giving motorcyclists all over a bad name.

The same as you are.

As I told him, I hope he runs it lean and holes all four pistons. I hold the same sentiment for you.

 

[Steve]

Just making sure I'm clear. Because my bike is loud, I'm a "moron" too?

I don't know about being a moron. You may be a pretty intelligent person. However, if your bike is obnoxiously loud, as in straight pipes or an un- (or barely) baffled header, you qualify as a jerk in my book.

Fortunately, you and I have different books. :-k

I appreciate a quiet bike probably more than most on this forum. After all, I have a Wing, which is about as quiet as you can get with gasoline power. I have ridden with Spyder and his "loud" pipe. I have no objection to it. Yes, it's noticeably louder than stock, but it is not objectionable to my ears. :encouragement:

Well, I do have the Baffle in my V&H, there is just no packing in it. Not on purpose, I got it that way, and I personally like the growl it has. Obnoxiously loud? I don't think so, but others could I suppose.

Yes, some will always object. Yours is obviously louder than stock but still in the "tolerable" range and should not upset too many of the neighbors. At least not with the way I saw you ride on the way to, and while at, the Brown County rally.

That's the same as no baffle. It's obnoxious and childish on a street bike.
No, he may be on your block, but he is giving motorcyclists all over a bad name.
The same as you are.
As I told him, I hope he runs it lean and holes all four pistons. I hold the same sentiment for you.

No, it's not the same as no baffle. Yes, there is still a bit more quieting possible with some packing, but there are different styles of baffles that have different amounts of noise reduction. The baffle in my bike is quite different in that it is not a straight-through type, so there is a BIG difference when it is removed. I have to be careful with the packing that I install, too, since the exhaust has to flow THROUGH the packing. Usually, you just wrap some fiberglass matting around the baffle and it controls the echo between the perforated pipe of the baffle and the outer shell, but that will block the flow in my muffler. I have to use coarse stainless steel wool, and it does a wonderful job.

While I appreciate a quiet bike, too, I can also appreciate something that is a bit louder than stock. The original poster's MAC 4-into-1 without a baffle is undoubtably in the "obnoxious" range, but having ridden with Spyder, I would not dump him into that same category. :-\\\

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[Spyder]

Thank you Steve, I appreciate that.

I do actually have the plan to play around with some steal wool packing to take the "edge" off of it...

 

[JJ]

No, it's not the same as no baffle. Yes, there is still a bit more quieting possible with some packing, but there are different styles of baffles that have different amounts of noise reduction.

OK Steve. I trust your judgement when it comes to just how "obnoxiously loud" a bike is.

Spyder, please accept my apology for ASSuming something I don't personally know about.

 

[Spyder]

No worries...

 

[andrews gs]

Does anyone know some smooth bore carbs that with fit my bike from a newer 1100 that will give performance gains I'm just wondering if there is such a thing.

 

[Guest]

Does anyone know some smooth bore carbs that with fit my bike from a newer 1100 that will give performance gains I'm just wondering if there is such a thing.

There are no newer bikes with non-CV carbs from the factory, CV's were used on everything to get decent running while meeting the emissions rules of the day. I think the GS1150 carbs will fit and offer a bit of a boost, but they are still CV's. Some install GSXR slingshot CV carbs but they are designed as semi-downdraft and take fiddling to get working well on a GS. If you really want smoothbores you will be buying a set of Keihin CR's or Mikuni RS's and paying $$$ for them. They will provide a noticeable power increase, though.

Regardless of what you use it will need to be jetted and set up for your bike. You already have a set of carbs that will work fine once you sort them so you might as well start there and move on to the aftermarket stuff if you need/want to at a later date. You seem to be disappointed that a 33 year old unfaired bike won't break 120mph and now are looking for 'performance gains'. Perhaps you should simply buy a newer sport bike and be done with it? Unless you spend serious $$$ on your 1100E it is never going to be faster than a 5 year old 600 and nothing you can do will make it handle anything like a modern bike, it is simply too big, heavy and flexible.


Mark

 

[TxGSrider]

Does anyone know some smooth bore carbs that with fit my bike from a newer 1100 that will give performance gains I'm just wondering if there is such a thing.

Some of the bikes outside of the US used some flatslide "pumper" carbs (Ive got a set of 33mm off a 750 Canadian model), but like mmattockx has pointed out, the CV carbs are probably the best all around carburetor when tuned right. They allow you to have a broader "usable" powerband on the street and get better gas mileage. However, the "RS" and other pumper carbs should accelerate faster under really aggressive driving, but at the expense of mileage and possibly "low rpm/high load" power loss.

I am in the process of getting some of the late model "slingshot" 36mm carbs tuned for my internally stock gs1100e and even though they aren't quite right yet, they feel so much stronger than my stock carbs with a jet kit. I can't outrun any modern 600cc sport bikes, but I doubt theres many "Sport/touring bikes" or "Cruisers" that I couldn't run down. lol