Updates with pics

[julien]

New intake boots installed ? The hardest part was to remove the old ones (thank God for impact driver)

New front tire installed ? Putting the new tire on the rim wasn?t as hard as I first thought. A little bit of elbow grease and it was on. Didn?t get to do the rear tire yet? most likely will be doing this one evening this week.

Old intake boots and misc. parts from the carbs ? When I removed the carbs for cleaning 2 out of the 4 intake boots just broke apart. You can also see the old carbs bowl gaskets and some of the screws I have replaced.

Front fork oil seals ? This is a pic of the old seals? no surprise that they were leaking? all rusted. I don?t have a pic of the new ones? they are on the bike. Last night I put the fork back together with the new seals, new oil. Front suspension feels very very nice.

 

[julien]

From a previous post I mentioned an oil leak (actually 2 ? one from the plug and one from the filter cover area). I was able to fix (at least I believe I did) the one from the plug.
The one from the front cover (where the oil filter is) hasn?t been fixed yet?. I am going to see if I can change the ring again (I have an extra one) Last night after putting the fork back I took her for a ride (just around the block) and oil was leaking like crazy from the front. Here is a pic of the problem area. Any suggestions? I went through about 8 quarts of oil already ☹.

Here is a pic of the binder that I made that has a copy of the manual and some of Mr. Basscliff?s ?How To?..

A pic of the rear tire waiting to be installed ? The tire at the bottom is the old front tire.
I use the old tire as a ?stand? when installing the new one on the rim. I think it works better than pieces of wood (to protect the rim from the floor)

And here is a pic of the girl in the garage? excuse the mess:

I will continue to update you... thanks for everyone's help.

 

[dr_fosg8]

Looking good!

Looking good!

Congrats on doing your own work! Makes the time fly by and you can have some fun while learning something.

 

[lurch12_2000]

From a previous post I mentioned an oil leak (actually 2 – one from the plug and one from the filter cover area). I was able to fix (at least I believe I did) the one from the plug.
The one from the front cover (where the oil filter is) hasn’t been fixed yet…. I am going to see if I can change the ring again (I have an extra one) Last night after putting the fork back I took her for a ride (just around the block) and oil was leaking like crazy from the front. Here is a pic of the problem area. Any suggestions? I went through about 8 quarts of oil already ☹.

A pic of the rear tire waiting to be installed – The tire at the bottom is the old front tire.
I use the old tire as a “stand” when installing the new one on the rim. I think it works better than pieces of wood (to protect the rim from the floor)





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Did you replace the o-ring on the filter cover. They tend to flatten out after 3 or 4 filter changes and you don't want to overtighten those 3 10mm bolts(you replaced with allen bolts?). I only use 2 fingers of torque when tightening. I also use a touch of grease to keep the o-ring stuck in place on the cover groove and from flopping out of position while evenly tightening the cover down. A new o-ring comes with the Fram filters otherwise you have to get them seperately for $3/ea.
The rear tire may take more effort to change because of the wider size that seems to be less flexible.

 

[Larry D]

How'd she run on your trip around the block ? I've had an oring get pinched under the oil filter cover and yes it will leak like crazy. Gotta make sure those are in the proper place before tightening down the cover. Are the studs stripped ? I noticed you have nuts there instead of the cap nuts. Perhaps they just aren't getting tight enough. You might try some teflon tape around the drain plug, if it's not to buggered up. Do you think it's stripped ?
That's alot of work. Great job !!

 

[JTsGS650]

Looks like you have an oil-cooler setup on there. I'd be interested to see some more pics of that...

For the oil filter cover, if the studs are stripped (which seems to be a common problem) you can replace them with stainless pieces for greater durability. If you do a search you will find instructions on how to remove with two nuts locked together or with vise-grip pliers. From what I understand it's pretty easy.

And congrats on your progress, you should be riding in no time.

 

[julien]

dr_fogs8: Thanks... yes it is a fun (and sometimes frustrating) learning experience.

lurch12_2000: yes, I replaced the bolt... 2 of them were stripped. I have replaced the o-ring when I changed the filter... maybe it is out of place... I am planning on looking at it tonight again... I need to buy some more oil first

Larry D: the run around the block was nice... since the I cleaned the carbs I can feel better throttle response... I can't wait to take a test ride on the highway. Before, when on 5th gear, she would hesitate and I couldn't go faster than 50-55 mph. From the little ride last night... even on 1st, 2nd and third... she wasn't hesitating at all. She is actually kinda fast
Regarding the drain plug, I believe I took care of it... the person before me replaced the original plug with a bigger one and the original (I purchased one) doesn't fit... it is too small now. I used a car plug washer (half rubber half metal) and it seems to work. At least it didn't leaked from it last night.

JTsGS650: I can take more pics of the setup... there is a small "radiator" above. The only plain with this is the setup inside the filter box... there is a small copper tube that needs to be held in place when closing everything back.
I will do a search for instructions on the removal of the stripped studs but if anyone can point me towards it, I would appreciate it.

Once I change the rear tire, she is all ready (except for a big bath) to ride. It will be raining here for the next few days... but we are expecting a nice weekend... my goal is to have her ready for Saturday.

 

[JTsGS650]

http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/showthread.php?t=139119

Post #11 explains how to remove the studs.

 

[julien]

JTsGS650 - Thank You very much Sir

Be Safe.

 

[duaneage]

Yeah, we GS650G owners are curious about that oil cooler setup and how it is plumbed. On the Katana version it goes to the oil pan.

 

[julien]

Interesting... does anyone with a GS650G has the same setup?
Is my baby "special" ? I will take some more pics tonight.

 

[julien]

Well here we are... some pics of the "special oil coolant setup" on my 650G.

I have started a new thread with the same pics (just in case someone doesn't grab this updates one)

Let me know what you think or if you have any questions/ideas.

 

[Bribird]

I have wondered if getting an oil pan off of a katana 650 w and swaping it out....if that would work? I dont know if the oil passages in the lower case are the same on all the 650's or if the katana lower case is special??

 

[duaneage]

I've got pictures of the lower end of a kat (somewhere) but it does not show the magic inside that sends oil up and back. I always thought that tapping off the oil filter through the drain plug and returning it to the pan would work as long as a restriction was in place to keep pressure from dropping.

These engines have high oil pressure, around 40 lbs/inch, so steel braided lines would be a good idea.

Question: Does the oil cooler get hot when the engine is running?

 

[pdqford]

Last night after putting the fork back I took her for a ride (just around the block) and oil was leaking like crazy from the front. Here is a pic of the problem area. Any suggestions? I went through about 8 quarts of oil already ☹.

Oil down that rear tire and you might not make it around the block.

 

[waterman]

Interesting... does anyone with a GS650G has the same setup?
Is my baby "special" ? I will take some more pics tonight.

If you take off the filter cover, please take pictures of both sides. I will say your 650 is "special" with its oil cooler. Anyone recognize which model this filter cover came off of?

There had been some discussion in the past about if one could mate a 650M oilpan and cooler to regular g model. I think you would need a few more bits to make it work but here your bike may have the answer some of us are looking for. Thanks for posting.

 

[julien]

I will open it up and take pics.
Last week when I did the filter change inside was a copper tube and the filter.
The copper tube goes from the end of the filter casing (left lower corner) to the left tube on the filter cover... I am assuming that the oil travels through the "cooler" and then back into the oil casing.

 

[Tom MLC]

I will open it up and take pics.
Last week when I did the filter change inside was a copper tube and the filter.
The copper tube goes from the end of the filter casing (left lower corner) to the left tube on the filter cover... I am assuming that the oil travels through the "cooler" and then back into the oil casing.

Julien, you are correct in the thought about the path for oil flow. With that copper tube installed, the oil must flow out the cover fitting, up through the oil cooler, then back to the filter chamber.

This is definately a "special" setup because most folks choose a more conventional source for oil pressure. I did this same setup on my GS1000 motor. Maybe you and I have the only special bikes! And hey, we're both from da Bronx!

I know I have pics. I mentioned that in your other thread. I also know I have a video how-to somewhere. I must dig this up.

 

[julien]

Hey Tom MLC: Yes... a video would be nice for the folks out there... so we are special... hey... and from the boogie down Bronx as well... yahooooooooo. :dancing:

 

[Bribird]

hey Julien and Tom, please post all the info you have on this type of set-up. If it is do-able and the oil pressure drop is not that bad I would love to do it to my bike! I wish we had a katana 650 expert on here somewhere, as it would be cool to know if the oil pan swap idea is possible?