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What is this attached to my kickstand?

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After removing my kickstand, in addition to the kickstand spring, I noticed a wire connected to it running to some sort of sensor. It is clear that when the kickstand is down it causes this wire to be pulled and actuate some sensor or switch. The bike still drives with the kickstand down (found this one out the hard way) so I am wondering what this thing is all about?
 
You should have an idiot light on your instrument cluster that lights when the side stand is down. If it dont light up its the bulb, switch, or the wire running between the two.

Tell us what bike it is and someone with the same model will give you the details on it.
 
Yep side stand engaged switch, new bikes wont start at all with the stand down.
 
It is an '83 650L (adding it to my sig now).

Is the light located in the same location as my turn signals and neutral light?
 
Mine Starts

Mine Starts

jwhelan65 said:
Yep side stand engaged switch, new bikes wont start at all with the stand down.
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My "T" will start with kickstand down and bike in Nuetral. It's how I always start my bike.


Ed
 
GSXR7ED said:
My "T" will start with kickstand down and bike in Nuetral. It's how I always start my bike.


Ed
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Your bike should start regardless of kick stand position or gear that is engaged, as long as you pull the clutch lever (unless you have bypassed that switch).

The GS series bikes do not have any interlocks in the starter except that one in the clutch lever.

They also do not cut the ignition if a gear is engaged while the kick stand is down.

This was only the beginning of the "nanny state" of interlocks, so we were just "blessed" with one. :o

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Since I don't see a light coming on anywhere can someone tell me where I should look so I can fix it?
 
Steamroller said:
Since I don't see a light coming on anywhere can someone tell me where I should look so I can fix it?
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Sidestand light is In about same place as the oil pressure light, the high beam light and the netural light (on Gs anyway, not certain about Ls)

The kickstand switch closing (turning on, making contact) makes the sidestand light come on (and has no other function, doesn't effect starter or ignition or anything).
Maybe your switch has never worked, and never made the light come on. Or maybe don't have a good bulb.

Can simulate the sidestand switch by connecting the wire to ground. That should simulate the swtich closing like it should when the side stand is not fully up and make the light come on.

Although, in addition to all this; the oil pressure sensor is suppose to make the Oil Light (red) AND the sidestand light (another red) BOTH come on. But sidestand swtich only makes the sidestand light come on. COuld discuss how that is possible, but that is getting even further away from the original discussion point.


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No Bypass

No Bypass

Steve said:
Your bike should start regardless of kick stand position or gear that is engaged, as long as you pull the clutch lever (unless you have bypassed that switch).

The GS series bikes do not have any interlocks in the starter except that one in the clutch lever.

They also do not cut the ignition if a gear is engaged while the kick stand is down.

This was only the beginning of the "nanny state" of interlocks, so we were just "blessed" with one. :o

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That's good to know the bike will start as long as the clutch is disengaged. I haven't messed with the ignition system so I couldn't tell you if there's a bypass.

Ed
 
GSXR7ED said:
That's good to know the bike will start as long as the clutch is disengaged. I haven't messed with the ignition system so I couldn't tell you if there's a bypass.

Ed
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Easy way to see if the clutch interlock is still functioning is to not pull in clutch and hit starter button, if starter doesn't go, there is one clue. Then pull in clutch and if starter goes then you know the clutch interlock is functioning.

If look on schematic, it is called "Interlock".

TO find some of the wiring, look under clutch handle, follow the wires into the headlight shell (on G anyway).

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I guess I can only upload 1 picture at a time. Here is the wiring diagram for my '83 650L. There is no sidestand switch or light on here, but there is definitely a sidestand switch on my bike.
 
Here is a pic of my dash. I don't see anywhere for a sidestand light. The sidestand has no effect on the oil light. My bike starts in any gear with the sidestand down so long as the clutch is in.
 
And then here is a (bad) picture of the switch in question. Does anyone have any idea of what is going on here? I know it is not vital to have this figured out but it would drive me nuts to not know what the deal is.
 
Tried It...

Tried It...

Redman said:
Easy way to see if the clutch interlock is still functioning is to not pull in clutch and hit starter button, if starter doesn't go, there is one clue. Then pull in clutch and if starter goes then you know the clutch interlock is functioning.

If look on schematic, it is called "Interlock".

TO find some of the wiring, look under clutch handle, follow the wires into the headlight shell (on G anyway).

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Redman,

I tried this with the bike parked, sidestand down, in nuetral (as I always start the bike). Hit the ignition button on two separate occasions; not touching the clutch and then gripping it (disengaged). Both times the starter turned over.

Maybe I need to try it with the bike in gear? But I never start the bike that way so I'm thinking not.

Anyway, I haven't tried that thing you suggested with the handlebars/bar ends in a straight line. But I will soon enough!

Thanks for your input Dave...it's always appreciated!


Ed
 
GSXR7ED said:
I tried this with the bike parked, sidestand down, in nuetral (as I always start the bike). Hit the ignition button on two separate occasions; not touching the clutch and then gripping it (disengaged). Both times the starter turned over.

Maybe I need to try it with the bike in gear?
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If it starts with and without pulling the clutch, it will do the same thing with the bike in gear. :eek:

Once again, THERE IS NO INTERLOCK WITH THE STARTER EXCEPT THE CLUTCH LEVER SWITCH. :cool:

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No Interlock

No Interlock

Steve said:
If it starts with and without pulling the clutch, it will do the same thing with the bike in gear. :eek:

Once again, THERE IS NO INTERLOCK WITH THE STARTER EXCEPT THE CLUTCH LEVER SWITCH. :cool:

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Thanks Steve.

Ed
 
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