Need suggestions soonest!

[gustovh]

The following pictures depict a sidecar project that I have underway, l need suggestions of how to do the rear mount, assuming the rear mount is in front of the frame and top control rod.











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[Carter Turk]

Who you carrying for all the bother of setting it up?

[GregT]

Take it off the engine mount points. Ideally, the inner pivots front and rear should be in a line so as to let you set lean in/lean out with a single strut at the front.
I don't think you have enough sidecar wheel lead either. IMO it should be about 10inches in front of the rear - axle CL to axle CL.

Is your Ural an outfit ?

[gustovh]

My grandson.

Who you carrying for all the bother of setting it up?

[gustovh]

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Take it off the engine mount points. Ideally, the inner pivots front and rear should be in a line so as to let you set lean in/lean out with a single strut at the front.
I don't think you have enough sidecar wheel lead either. IMO it should be about 10inches in front of the rear - axle CL to axle CL.

Is your Ural an outfit ?

Th e Ural is unfit as a reliable machine. The sidecar is a unison leaner, thus the second linkage in the rear. Wheel lead is not as necessary as the standard hack must have. Have watched videos of learners with the wheel centered on the bikes rear wheel.

Just looking for possible rear mount ideas. Keep in mind that the rear mount will also be connected to the front mount by a piece of welded on box tubing.

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[gustovh]

Well I solved my rear mount problem. It will not be pretty and involves moving the starter sylinoid, but it will be strong.

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[gustovh]

With the rear mount figured I have made some progress.

















I figure that I will make the rear a bustle.

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[Rob S.]

Seems to be coming along.

Isn't the side car seat sitting rather high?

[gustovh]

One would think so, but my car is several inches lower than other unison cars. The passenger sits in line with the wheel, you need a bit of hight so the car can lean with the bike. Will be on the road Tuesday for break in.

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[gustovh]

Well I went for a test ride today with 80 pounds of salt in the sidecar seat, I can only say that it was fun. After about 15 miles on the local twisties it started to rain, well enough of that so turned around and rode back home.

Lessons learned, I don’t have to relearn how to ride. I need to stiffen up the forks a bit with some spacers and add some preload to the rear shocks.

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[gustovh]

I loaded 140lbs of bricks into the sidecar and went for a 70 mile ride to Scapoose and back. Low speed can be a trick but once you get going, woo hoo. Pics later today maybe.

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[gustovh]

Only a few decent pics this time. One with 80 pounds of salt in the sidecar, one at the golf course..makes carrying the clubs easy and the last with 140 pounds of bricks in the sidecar.

When I got home I pulled the hack apart and made a few improvements and got to painting (rattle can) almost finished.







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[Grimly]

Interesting job on that.
I've been kicking around the idea of a leaning sidecar for a while, but I think the trike is still winning.

[gustovh]

It's finished and another test ride this afternoon.









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[gustovh]

Did a 40 mile run with passenger aboard, things learned....... it is easy to go quick, taking a left hand turn a little too quick can be a bit discerning, unloads the sidecars weight onto the rear tire and requires hard pressure on the left handlebar to get the bike back on track. The key is don’t panic.

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