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    #91
    Well I am done due to financials........end of rant.
    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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      #92
      Been there...
      De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

      http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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        #93
        Call me PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #94
          https://www.tat-co.com/TranstarAutobodyTechnologies/media/TATCo/Product%20Assets/Flyers/Z632-Paint-Defect-Troubleshooting-Guide.pdf

          Paint Defaults & Defects
          4
          Blushing (Milkiness)
          Identification
          A milky white, gray cloud appears on the surface of the paint film immediately or shortly after application.
          Cause:
          • When spraying during humid conditions, air from the spray gun and solvent evaporation lowers the substrate
          temperature below the dew point, causing moisture in the air to condense in or on the paint film. The condition
          is aggravated when too fast drying or unbalanced thinner/reducer is used.
          Wrong temp solvent/hardeners for the weather conditions. Humidity too high when painting or during drying. ??
          Bubbles in the paint possibly from trapped solvent.

          Needed pictures.
          De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

          http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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            #95
            Stripped and will try again. Gotta learn somehow i guess. Got some primer on it as of now. I tried to take pics of the hazing but they didnt show well so i never posted them.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #96
              I know how you feel, Chuck. Been there, too. All part of the learning experience. It's really hard to help diagnose problems when you can't be there to see the process and all the materials being used. There are SO many variables. Next time you spray your base and clear coats, try lessening the amount of fluid that your gun is shooting. Turn the lower/larger knob in another full turn or so, that will help with the larger tip that you have. The milkiness you describe is probably a combination of high humidity and as mentioned maybe a reducer that is drying too fast, Get some reducer that's about 10 degrees warmer then the air temperature you're spraying in and that should help..it'll stay wet a little longer. Don't worry so much about getting it so wet it runs on you. I know everyone, me including, wants the clear coat to be as smooth and glassy as possible to make final sanding easier, but it's not critical. You can always sand that little bit of orange peel out..way easier then sanding runs.

              You couldn't have picked a harder type of paint to try on your second go. It's bound to be frustrating. Mixing ratios have to be right on the money and you have to know how much to spray on each pass to keep it consistent from part to part and constantly changing directions to keep it from tiger striping on you. There's a real "feel" to it that only comes from doing it, maybe screwing it up, learning from it, and doing it again. Expensive lessons for sure..this sh-t ain't cheap.

              I agree with Dale. I'm absolutely positive that you can get a red base coat that will be very close to the candy. Ford and Chrysler both make reds that will be much easier to spray.
              Last edited by nvr2old; 09-25-2015, 01:45 AM.
              1979 GS1000S,

              1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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                #97
                They gave him an all temp reducer.
                De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                  #98
                  Side covers and front fender look amazing. Nice even looking tone across the parts when laid side by side. I will snap a pic of whats done so far later today.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #99
                    Just got off the phone with Chuck. He was gifted some mid coat red and another gun. He's blocking the tank right now and checking the P sheets to see how long the base coat he sprayed on the tail section is open for. Wish him the best in this his newest endever.
                    De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                    http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                      #100
                      Very lightly sanded the primer with 600 and from what i can see there isnt any bubbles or showing defects. I will again take a very very close look in the morning before proceeding. Too hot to do anything else now so its wait.

                      Based on the tech sheet i should be okay with the tail / seat trim piece if I can get to it before around noon. I want to do the seat trim and tank at the same time so they have the best chance of being matched..which is where the eye is gonna register the most when looking at a bike. Seems the first thing noticed is the tank!!
                      Last edited by chuck hahn; 09-25-2015, 06:49 PM.
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        #101
                        OK...so I shot the first coat of silver base at 71* at about 9:30 AM. Looks awesome if I can just not bump it and jack it all up!!!
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                          #102
                          Humidity is high so I am waiting about 1 1/2 hrs between coats. Got the 2 silver base coats down without any issues. Seat trim is also ready for mid coat. But since the tank is the thing thats the biggest, the curviest, and the hardest to paint I will keep my fingers crosssed.





                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                            #103
                            Red mid coat is on and so far so good. I am not gonna move it to take any pics till tomorrow morning. Walk away and leave it alone is the best medicine right now. Good 12 hrs or so to cure will do it good. Will do some clear tomorrow. 2/3 of the way there.
                            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                              #104
                              It's my understanding that no more than 15 minutes flash time is desirable. When the previous coat is still slightly wet, it creates a chemical rather than mechanical bond. If you're not going to clear immediately you'll need to sand the base coat first.
                              Ignore me if you already know this.
                              Suzuki GS550; Kawasaki H-1E, GPz900; Honda MT250, CB400F, CB550, GL500, CBR929.

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                                #105
                                Tech sheets for the paint I am using says it stays open for 24 hrs.

                                Directions state that if doing a two tone or clear I must do it WITHIN 24 hrs. If OVER 24 hrs it will need sanded for any further applications.

                                So by about 9 AM tomorrow it will only be at arouind 15 hrs or so.
                                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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