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    Switching the clutch

    Hello everyone. I'm new to motorcycles and I'm learning as I go. Last summer I bought an 83 gs 750t for $200, dumped in another $700 and now I have a prefect running bike. However I noticed recently the clutch is slipping, not a lot but when I have another rider and I'm going up a hill it will slip sometimes. I adjusted the clutch cable as must as possible but it still happens from time to time. Now there is a garage in town that has a GS 850 GL 1982 or 1983 for sale for $100. My question is will the clutch package in that fit my 83 gs 750t? and will other parts from that fit my bike? Thanks.

    #2
    The most common solution for a slipping clutch is to replace the six springs that squeeze it together. About $20 for the springs and $8-10 for the gasket for the cover.
    I believe your 750 is a 16-valve engine. Not sure if the clutch for that is interchangeable with the 850, but I believe the earlier 8-valve 750 clutches were.

    If you can get an 850 for $100, DO IT. Even if you put another $700 into getting it running, it's worth it.
    Just replace the springs, then go get that 850.

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    Last edited by Steve; 03-29-2010, 08:59 PM.
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      #3
      Could be one of several things. What oil are you using? Did you adjust the screw with the locknut on the countershaft sprocket cover? If those two things check out you may only need new clutch springs.

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        #4
        Billyricks- Im using standard 10/40 oil in it. I did adjust the screw with the locknut on the countershaft sprocket cover but I'm a little unsure how to adjust that one. Tips?

        Steve- The fact that you and billy are telling me the springs might be worn tells me to check them. I again am unsure how to do that. This website has some great guides (which I've used several so far) and is there a guide to do the springs? That other bike is in bad shape but I'm going to get it. I don't have the money to dump into another bike but who knows, I might get another good one.

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          #5
          The springs have been compressed since the bike was built, they are shorter now and not putting as much pressure as they were designed to.
          Very cheap and very easy to replace.
          Stock Suzuki springs are what you want.
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          Life is too short to ride an L.

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            #6


            There is no adjustment on the sprocket cover.
            See the six springs? (#12) These are what you need to replace.
            I have some HD springs that will work well for you.
            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Thenewguy View Post
              Steve- The fact that you and billy are telling me the springs might be worn tells me to check them. I again am unsure how to do that. This website has some great guides (which I've used several so far) and is there a guide to do the springs?
              OK, "newguy", it's been quite a while since you joined the site with your first post back in July, 2009. Do you remember the welcome you got from BassCliff?

              He has a LOT of stuff stored there, go look. OK, I just went to look for you, and discovered that he does not have anything that shows replacing the springs. (Might just have to do something about that.) Order a set of six springs from one of the vendors listed on his site (any of them except Alpha, that is) and also get a clutch cover gasket. Remove the clutch cover, you will see the clutch facing you with six bolts near the center. Remove the bolts. Remove the clutch disks, keep them in the same order and direction as they came out. Measure the thickness of the fiber disks to make sure they are not worn out. Inspect the grooves inside the clutch basket where the outer tabs of the clutch disks rest. Make sure the sides of the grooves are smooth, so the disks can slide just a little bit. Put the disks back in, insert the new springs and torque the bolts into place. I say "torque" them in because the proper level is rather low. Install the cover with the new gasket, make sure the cable is properly adjusted, go for a ride.

              .
              sigpic
              mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
              hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
              #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
              #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
              Family Portrait
              Siblings and Spouses
              Mom's first ride
              Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
              (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                #8
                ratchet style clutch not worm gear.
                what chef bill said!

                and yes the clutch pack(most)will interchange between the two models..
                Last edited by blowerbike; 03-30-2010, 12:32 AM. Reason: stuff

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                  #9
                  Hi Mr. thenewguy,




                  Clutch springs, #15:



                  The new clutch springs go here:



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                    #10
                    Thank you everyone for your help. I'm going to start by adjusting the cable, if that's not the problem I will follow the guides about the springs.chef1366- thanks for the offer, if I need to replace the springs I will hit you up. I will also keep everyone informed. Thanks.

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