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    This hub looks different

    Got this black hub from an ebay seller, was listed as being from an 80 850G.

    I know there were some design changes (mostly 82 and 83 and current OEM replacement, not bothering to discuss that here) but that they are all interchangeable.
    And I have seen different ones fom different years, with different material, but otherwize looked the same.




    Compared here to a current OEM replacement one.

    There are some dimensional differences.
    Namley the pins are shorter, and the main body is thiner (is a plate rather than being cast).

    The pattern of the pins seem to be the same, and the splines seem to be the same.






    Any comment?

    Anybody recognise this? Look like what would expect in 79 or 80 850G?
    1949 Ginsue tractor?

    Dave


    >>Later Note
    Maybe I should also say that it came from Canada.

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    Last edited by Redman; 11-18-2011, 07:06 PM. Reason: later note
    http://webpages.charter.net/ddvrnr/GS850_1100_Emblems.jpg
    Had 850G for 14 years. Now have GK since 2005.
    GK at IndyMotoGP Suzuki Display... ... GK on GSResources Page ... ... Euro Trash Ego Machine .. ..3 mo'cykls.... update 2 mocykl


    https://imgur.com/YTMtgq4

    #2
    I saw a post on this awhile back, but can't seem to find it now in a "search". I seem to remember the older style driven hub with the nuts on the back were discontinued (recalled?) on the chance they may come loose and cause everything to come to a real quick halt. I bet one of our senior members will chime in soon.
    1982 GS1100G

    ....I've learned alot by making stupid mistakes..

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      #3
      Probably came from a 90's cruser They are supposed to be interchangable ???

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        #4
        The one on the left that uses nuts to hold the studs in place, is the 79 style spline which was recalled. I have the same one in my 82 850G.

        p.s. the early hub used different plates to retain the hub. if you intend on using it, you'll need to clean and re-locktite the studs, then make new plates to retain it to the wheel.

        Last edited by rustybronco; 11-18-2011, 11:38 PM. Reason: added picture
        De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

        http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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          #5
          If that doesnt work out for you, I have this nice one from a 80 850GL. Will sell the entire diff for 60.00 plus the shipping. Has 18,605 miles on it.



          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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            #6
            Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post

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            Chuck, We are talking about the hub in the rear wheel.
            http://webpages.charter.net/ddvrnr/GS850_1100_Emblems.jpg
            Had 850G for 14 years. Now have GK since 2005.
            GK at IndyMotoGP Suzuki Display... ... GK on GSResources Page ... ... Euro Trash Ego Machine .. ..3 mo'cykls.... update 2 mocykl


            https://imgur.com/YTMtgq4

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              #7
              Originally posted by 1074cm3 View Post
              I saw a post on this awhile back, but can't seem to find it now in a "search". I seem to remember the older style driven hub with the nuts on the back were discontinued (recalled?) on the chance they may come loose and cause everything to come to a real quick halt. I bet one of our senior members will chime in soon.
              Hum. In all the discussions I have seen over the years about rear hub/splines (since 2005 when pushstarting Steve Giblets GK and hearing it go grunch crunch), I have been aware of the hub having been made of different materail and being different colors. But did not know about a different style.

              okay, that seems to be what this is.


              .
              http://webpages.charter.net/ddvrnr/GS850_1100_Emblems.jpg
              Had 850G for 14 years. Now have GK since 2005.
              GK at IndyMotoGP Suzuki Display... ... GK on GSResources Page ... ... Euro Trash Ego Machine .. ..3 mo'cykls.... update 2 mocykl


              https://imgur.com/YTMtgq4

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                #8
                Someone sold you a part that was removed as part of a recall. Freaking stealership profiting by selling a part they were paid to remove.
                Ed

                To measure is to know.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by rustybronco View Post
                  The one on the left that uses nuts to hold the studs in place, is the 79 style spline which was recalled. I have the same one in my 82 850G.

                  p.s. the early hub used different plates to retain the hub. if you intend on using it, you'll need to clean and re-locktite the studs, then make new plates to retain it to the wheel.
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                  .
                  RB, Dale

                  Thanks. Thanks Again. The voice of wisdom and knowledge.

                  So, yes, the one you showed is like this one I got here recently. So, we can call this the "early style" or the "79 style" (that I did not know existed).

                  So, you are saying that this "79 style" will fit in the later wheel and will fit the splines on the rear drive. But where it will not completly interchange is related to those retaining plates.

                  And the concern about the nuts on the studs.

                  Will have to ponder this further.

                  THanks again.
                  Dave

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                  http://webpages.charter.net/ddvrnr/GS850_1100_Emblems.jpg
                  Had 850G for 14 years. Now have GK since 2005.
                  GK at IndyMotoGP Suzuki Display... ... GK on GSResources Page ... ... Euro Trash Ego Machine .. ..3 mo'cykls.... update 2 mocykl


                  https://imgur.com/YTMtgq4

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                    #10
                    Dave, I have the recalled spline in my 82. I removed the nuts, cleaned and loctited the threads, then re-torqued the nuts. if you are worried about it, clean up the threads, torque the nuts and have someone MIG the studs and nuts together so they can't ever come loose. you could also drill the stud-nut combo for a bit of safety wire, that should work as well.

                    on the later style spline (non recall), the hub retaining plates fit in the groove. on the early style, the retaining plates sit on the surface between two studs. if you make up new retainers to use the early style hub, please account for the fact the hub rocks back and forth in the wheel's bushings. you don't want the retainers to smack into the studs when it does rock.
                    De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                    http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                      #11
                      OH...I Got the matching one for the differantial here too..
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                        If that doesnt work out for you, I have this nice one from a 80 850GL. Will sell the entire diff for 60.00 plus the shipping. Has 18,605 miles on it.

                        Good luck selling that final drive Chuck. I had a similar one that took me over a year to GIVE AWAY. Those units are as reliable as door stops so nobody needs one, plus they are heavy so shipping costs more than the part is worth.
                        Ed

                        To measure is to know.

                        Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                        Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                        Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                        KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                          #13
                          It fits in the 15.95 if it fits it ships boxes from the post office...shippings not squat. Already dry fitted it in a box earlier just to see if it would fit and it does.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                            It fits in the 15.95 if it fits it ships boxes from the post office...shippings not squat. Already dry fitted it in a box earlier just to see if it would fit and it does.
                            How much padding room is there?
                            Ed

                            To measure is to know.

                            Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                            Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                            Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                            KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                              #15
                              enough to do.
                              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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