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    Shims for the secondary drive gear

    So as I introduced myself, I told a little bit about the problem that I've been having with my 83 1100GL. But I'll do a recap, we bought our bike last April thinking everything was alright with the bike. I work at a motorcycle shop and I've seen the repair orders and what my shop has done with this bike. We had to replace the drive shaft seal in the back cause that started puking oil on the rear tire. That went in, no problem besides a little groaning from the fiance as he was trying to get the original out. Then about a month went on, and him and I went out for a ride. About 30 miles from home, his bike started to make a "ticking" sound. We got it home and put more oil in it and it wasn't leaking anywhere so we thought it was just low on oil.
    The fiance rode it to work the next day just fine. No ticking, went through the gears just fine and accelerated fantastic like and it purred like a "mean cat" wanting to get out on the road to open her up. Well, he was on his way home and he didn't even make it out of the parking lot and one of the seconardy drive gears snapped. We took it to my shop where it is currently sitting since late May. We got the gears and my service manager has pressed the gears together, but we are missing some vital parts that are needed to get the bike back on the road. The shims..... Suzuki discontinued them back in 1995. We have almost exhausted all of our options on finding shims for this bike and I'm almost ready to give up on it and find him another one. But I don't want to because this bike was fantastic until the gear broke.
    The manangers son told me to buy some copper shim stock and make my own shims. Just trace and cut. Well, little did I know that the shims had to seal the case up. And the shims that my fiance built wouldn't hold the oil in. It would leak out as soon as we would put oil inside. So here I am asking you awesome GS owners if you guys have any ideas on where to go from here. I really don't wanna roll the bike down a cliff, the engine is still good, it only has 40,xxx miles on it. Starts up everytime, electricals work.

    Thanks for reading. :-)

    #2
    not sure if this is what your after, but reading the parts fiche seems all parts are still available...





    4-2 SHIM DRIVE BEVE
    09181-32002 0~3 $4.03 $3.27
    4-4 SHIM DRIVE BEVE
    09181-32004 0~3 $4.18 $3.39
    4-6 SHIM DRIVE BEVE
    09181-32006 0~3 $4.18 $3.39
    4-8 SHIM DRIVE BEVE
    09181-32008 0~3 $3.92 $3.19
    4-9 SHIM DRIVE BEVE
    09181-32009 0~3 $4.03 $3.27
    10-3 SHIM DR BEVEL 1
    09181-25008 0~3 $3.35 $2.71

    or am I way off base....

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      #3
      Yes, those are what I'm looking for, those are still available through suzuki, but the ones that we really need is #20 and #17. The 2 big shims.

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        #4
        Those shims regularly show up for sale on on Ebay. Or, you just buy a used secondary drive gear assembly and replace the one you lost the shims to.
        De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

        http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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          #5
          here is a thread with a bit of info to help with the job.
          2002 bmw r1150gs 1978 gs1000E skunk les pew 1979 gs1000L dragbike
          82 gs1100L probably the next project
          1980 gs1000G the ugly 1978 gs750E need any parts?
          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m_m2oYJkx1A
          1978 gs1000E skunk #2 RLAP
          https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...2f1debec_t.jpg

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            #6
            Originally posted by fz6rgirl View Post
            Yes, those are what I'm looking for, those are still available through suzuki, but the ones that we really need is #20 and #17. The 2 big shims.
            And now I see they don't list those.....my bad.....sorry about that

            perhaps a post in the wanted section here on the site as well might yield something for you, or as rustybronco said, check e-bay....

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              #7
              Hi,

              You may already know this but here are the part numbers, slightly different part numbers for different thicknesses...

              #17 24945-45101
              SHIM (T:0.30)

              #17 24945-45100
              SHIM (T:0.35)

              #17 24945-45102
              SHIM (T:0.40)

              #17 24945-45103
              SHIM (T:0.50)

              #17 24945-45104
              SHIM (T:0.60)


              #20 24935-45101
              SHIM (T:0.30)

              #20 24935-45100
              SHIM (T:0.35)

              #20 24935-45102
              SHIM (T:0.40)

              #20 24935-45103
              SHIM (T:0.50)

              #20 24935-45104
              SHIM (T:0.60)

              Most of these same part numbers show up as being used on several model bikes. It may help you in your used parts search...

              • 1979 SUZUKI GS850GN - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1980 GS850GL - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1980 SUZUKI GS1000GLT - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1980 SUZUKI GS1000GT - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1980 SUZUKI GS850GT - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1981 SUZUKI GS1000GLX - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1981 SUZUKI GS1000GX - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1981 SUZUKI GS850GLX - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1981 SUZUKI GS850GX - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1982 GS1100G - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1982 SUZUKI GS1100GKZ (Touring) - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1982 SUZUKI GS1100GLZ - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1982 SUZUKI GS850GLZ - GEAR SHIFTING
              • 1982 SUZUKI GS850GLZ - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1982 SUZUKI GS850GZ - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1983 SUZUKI GS1100GD - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1983 SUZUKI GS1100GKD - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1983 SUZUKI GS1100GLD - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1983 SUZUKI GS850GD - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1983 SUZUKI GS850GLD - GEAR SHIFTING
              • 1983 SUZUKI GS850GLD - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR
              • 1984 SUZUKI GS1100GKE Touring - SECONDARY DRIVE GEAR

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                #8
                It's alright. I will try Ebay. I did see a few of them on ebay awhile ago, but didn't act on them because we were in the middle of making the shims out of the copper stock.

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                  #9


                  Buy it, assemble the secondary drive gears with some plastigage on the shim so you can get a feel for what shim thickness you will eventually need. Have a machine shop make one a wee bit thicker than than that, re(dis)assemble and sand it down until you get the proper bearing preload necessary.
                  De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                  http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                    #10
                    If it helps, CMSNL have this in stock:

                    ✓Good to order: SHIM,DRIVE GEAR HOUSING ✓Manufacturercode: 24935-45103 ✓OEM Suzuki part


                    And Robinsons have got this:

                    79 GS1000S
                    79 GS1000S (another one)
                    80 GSX750
                    80 GS550
                    80 CB650 cafe racer
                    75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                    75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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                      #11
                      Thank you guys so much! I think we are getting back on track to getting her back on the road! You guys have been a HUGE help.

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                        #12
                        Just one correction -- the shims do not have anything to do with sealing the gear assemblies to the engine cases.

                        That is handled by the large o-rings, #16 and #18. If gear oil is reaching the shims, these o-rings are leaking.
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                          #13
                          More here:



                          and here:

                          79 GS1000S
                          79 GS1000S (another one)
                          80 GSX750
                          80 GS550
                          80 CB650 cafe racer
                          75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                          75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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