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[Dexx]

The real problem with shooting with HVLP is the psi has to be consistant at the gun. compressors with a small reserve tank have to fill there reserves more often and can cause inconsistancies in the finished product. I love my sharp gravity feed HVLP for base coats, but I still use the old devilbis JGA for higher solids products. It lays clear coat down like glass. Having said that, i am going to try and do the hood of my truck with rattle cans, but i am still using base/clear to do it.

[Planecrazy]

What is the PSI requirement for the average gun? I've noticed that when I use the blow gun on my little compressor it is able to maintain a nice consistent 75PSI. If the gun requirement is no higher than this I shouldn't have a problem with the small (8 gallon) capacity tank...

Regards,

[Dexx]

My Hvlp reccomends 25 at the gun. i've done plus or minus 5 psi depending on how things lay out.there are more expensive guns out there that require less. The idea is basically, the less air, the less overspray. More paint actually ends up on what your painting than atomized into the air. My regular gun needs 40 to 45 psi or it just doesn't move enough material. You can get a fairly inexpensive regulator/gauge that goes between the air gun and the hose. pull the trigger just enough to let the air flow to check/set the proper amount. I have another old gun that has a gauge built right into it(pops out of the end of the handle like a tire gauge) I hated the thing until I found out it wasn't reading accurate. the reg/gauge combo straightend things out nicely.

[nichols750]

Sounds like several people have done alright by following their rattlecan jobs with a good gas-resistent clear-coat. You might want to look into those options before you let any gas hit the new paintjob...

Good Luck!

What are those gas resistant clear-coat options?? I would love to put them on my next project.

[beby99]

What are those gas resistant clear-coat options?? I would love to put them on my next project.

https://www.basfrefinish.com/vta/R-M/AM100.htm

[ron bayless]

That looks like the same color we just painted my 1100. Here's a pic. :-D

that is the absolute color i want my bike! i could never describe it.so here it is!what color is it exactly?

[rustybronco]

What is the PSI requirement for the average gun? I've noticed that when I use the blow gun on my little compressor it is able to maintain a nice consistent 75PSI. If the gun requirement is no higher than this I shouldn't have a problem with the small (8 gallon) capacity tank...

Regards,

Steve its the cfm rating that is the problem, anywere from 7.5 to 13.5 cfm for a hvlp gun, the old style non hvlp cup guns used less cfm's (4 to 8? cfm) but blew paint so hard at the surface (high pressure) that the paint would bounce off the surface of what you were painting and became over spray the new hvlps have a max of 10 psi at the tip less paint bouncing around therefore less over spray.
look at the cfm rating of your compressor at 40 psi, that will tell if its undersized when a compressor runs constantly you can have a problem with moisture in the air and that also will be a problem i just spray a little and let the compressor recover should not be a problem on small jobs but on completes like a car it WILL NOT do.

[crag antler]

WOW
After going thru 9 pages , you guys have really given me an education.
Thanks. I may have to put some of these tips to practice.
Now a question, for rattle-can, what would you say would be the ideal weather conditions for a proper paint job??
Should I wait until summer is over??

[Planecrazy]

Thanks for the clarification, Dale! I agree that my spraying will have to be "intermittent," with a chance for the compressor to recover. My CFM rating at 40PSI is only 4.5, but only drops to 3.7 at 90PSI, so I'm guessing that the gun that came with it ought to be ok with intermittent use. I was also planning to pick up a filter/separater before giving this a try, so I think I'll be ok on avoiding water or oil contamination.

Regards,

[RabbidRetard]

hmmm doesn't sound bad

I asked around in the DC area and the cheapest I found was a little over $500 from a gypsy... Normal shops wanted (I kid you not) $1,000.00 to complete the job. I have even had one of my bikes done for $100. It was great. I did all the prep and he shot it.

It seems it would be worth it for a forum member who paints to make good side money to paint. Not at $1,000 per job, but to offer a deal for forum members... Meaning to make up for a lower cost by recieving a large volume of business from this board.

I paint... i'm PPG certified... work at a collision shop in Hershey Pa. If ne body needs something done let me know...

[rustybronco]

Thanks for the clarification, Dale! I agree that my spraying will have to be "intermittent," with a chance for the compressor to recover. My CFM rating at 40PSI is only 4.5, but only drops to 3.7 at 90PSI, so I'm guessing that the gun that came with it ought to be ok with intermittent use. I was also planning to pick up a filter/separater before giving this a try, so I think I'll be ok on avoiding water or oil contamination.

Regards,

Steve i'm not trying to discourage you i have painted completes with a 2 h.p. compressor years ago, paint a little, recover, paint some more ect. in fact i painted the race car hood (about 3'x4') a month or so ago with a hvlp and a 1 h.p. compressor so it CAN be done.

[rustybronco]

WOW
After going thru 9 pages , you guys have really given me an education.
Thanks. I may have to put some of these tips to practice.
Now a question, for rattle-can, what would you say would be the ideal weather conditions for a proper paint job??
Should I wait until summer is over??

70- 75 degrees low humidity.

if your riding wait till fall, the down time will drive you nutz.

[rustybronco]

I love my sharp gravity feed HVLP for base coats, but I still use the old devilbis JGA for higher solids products. It lays clear coat down like glass. Having said that, i am going to try and do the hood of my truck with rattle cans, but i am still using base/clear to do it.

thats why i keep my old devilbiss mbc, high solids and clears wastes paint though.

[Planecrazy]

Steve i'm not trying to discourage you i have painted completes with a 2 h.p. compressor years ago, paint a little, recover, paint some more ect. in fact i painted the race car hood (about 3'x4') a month or so ago with a hvlp and a 1 h.p. compressor so it CAN be done.

Not at all discouraged, thanks! Better to have ALL the information and be prepared to do the job "right" with the tools I have, then to make the mistake of trying to use them in a way that will result in spray problems.

Regards,

[crag antler]

70- 75 degrees low humidity.

if your riding wait till fall, the down time will drive you nutz.

Only problem is I'm not riding until fall.
Not with the clutch,carbs and gaskets I'm doing.
I was thinking of painting my fairing before I mount it permanently.