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    #16
    Bring the tank to the guy and ask him how he would fix it. He may just do it for ya.

    Filler necks are tricky to do if you have not done them often. From what I have seen and heard, it is actually the vapours getting under either the paint/clear and causing the damage.

    There are several ways to deal with this but sealing is usually best.

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      #17
      You're absolutely correct. Trying to seal it with more clear will only leave another, even fresher, paint line for the vapors to penetrate. It needs to be sealed with a product that is gas resistant.
      1979 GS1000S,

      1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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        #18
        Thank you guys for all the clever advises.
        The tank was taken to a paint shop by the guy who sold me the bike a few years ago. I'll contact him tomorrow to track the painter.
        I agree that a complete paint job will be the perfect solution but I still need to check if it's the best value for money considering the fact that 2 inches from the cap the paint cannot be removed with a screw driver.
        I'm rebuilding this bike to display standards and money is running out.
        If the painter can guarantee a local fix I'll go for it. Nevertheless, this time I'll make sure the painter provides a professional gas resistant sealing solution where the paint meets the gas hole.
        The rubber seal, buy the way looks good. It wouldn't mind pampering with a high quality silicone grease which I have but it looks good.
        I'll keep you updated in the next days.
        Last edited by Guest; 03-06-2011, 09:28 PM.

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          #19
          Originally posted by nvr2old View Post
          It needs to be sealed with a product that is gas resistant.
          nvr2old,

          Thanks for the insight. when I finally get around to painting the Skunks tank, I WOULD have made that same mistake. not now because of you!
          De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

          http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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            #20
            I still think the number 1 thing is to be absolutely sure the cap gasket is sealing COMPLETELY
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #21
              I would also suggest a little emery cloth on the sealing edge of the filler neck as well to insure its smooth and rust free so theres a positve seal all the way around.
              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                #22
                chuck hahn,
                I re-checked the cap and its rubber seal is good as new. The tank is completely sealed. Also coated the rubber with silicon grease which I have and is known to make rubber applications last forever.
                I talked to the seller and he confirmed that the tank is sealed but mentioned that the painter was neither a Leonardo da Vinci and Botticelli descendant nor a motorcyclist which can explain the problem I'm facing.
                In my area there's a painter that worked 3 years in Miami on high $ choppers which amazed me with some of his works.
                I'll drop the tank at his shop tomorrow and update when it's done.
                Last edited by Guest; 03-07-2011, 11:50 AM.

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                  #23
                  The rubber may be good as new but does it seal properly? Since its gonna be worked on any ways, i would take it and fill it with enough gas to flip the tank on its sides to see if theres any weepage anywheres.. Do this before you take it to the new painters. That way you can be 100% sure the gasket is doing its job. Better to find out on a damaged tank first!!! OH and have you looked at the condition of the oring at the bottom of the lock cylinder? Take the black plastic latch cover off and youll see it there. That can also let fuel seep out the cap
                  Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-07-2011, 11:56 AM.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                    The rubber may be good as new but does it seal properly? Since its gonna be worked on any ways, i would take it and fill it with enough gas to flip the tank on its sides to see if theres any weepage anywheres.. Do this before you take it to the new painters. That way you can be 100% sure the gasket is doing its job. Better to find out on a damaged tank first!!! OH and have you looked at the condition of the oring at the bottom of the lock cylinder? Take the black plastic latch cover off and youll see it there. That can also let fuel seep out the cap
                    Interesting point about that o-ring. mine is pretty gone. Anyone have any ideas on replacing it?

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                      #25
                      regular oring from any hardwrae will do. Take the old one or even the cap body with you to fit one. I should add a footnote here. I should add a footnote here:: If the oring leaks youll n otice it around the lock cylinder first. Ask me how i know!!
                      Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-07-2011, 12:15 PM.
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                        #26
                        You could also quit overfilling the tank when it's going to sit.
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                        Life is too short to ride an L.

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                          #27
                          I filled it at the start of my buddies dirt road. Then proceeded down said rough road to his house. Gas sloshed arond and next thing i know it has seeped out the lock cylinder hole and the tank was wet and full of splatter spots. Thats how i discovered the dreaded O ring.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                            #28
                            Maybe they used rattle primer?
                            Yamaha fz1 2007

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                              #29
                              chuck hahn,

                              chuck hahn,
                              I turned the tank upside down and It leaks like an open tap from the side of the cap. Not from the key hole.
                              Are you sure an upside down tank is not suppose to leak ?
                              I don't understand how a new Suzuki original cap with a perfect rubber seal is leaking ?

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                                #30
                                It should seal against all reasonable scenarios..Just think of all the leaning angles when riding. If the bike is leaned over to the left or right then gas is gonna slop up the filler neck..right?? The seal has to seal or gas will seep out and F up the tank again..right?? see where i am going here? As your going from one lean angle to another like on a twisty road..gas sloshes in all dirction in the tank right?? Dry it all off and slosh it around just like if your riding it. its a vented cap. Gas is coming out the vent..I didnt mean to litterally flip it upside down..shake the crap out of it like i described in a riding type situation.
                                Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-07-2011, 02:19 PM.
                                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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