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    #76
    Chuck for gods sake man! I didn't know you had a thread going on this. Why didn't you call me like I told ya. Anyway. First off Wired George is an idiot. IDIOT. 110s?? 17.5??? 17.5 should never have been in those carbs. Too big! 110 is two sizes two big for stock. I wouldn't trust him to clean my headlight let alone my carbs. Anyone who says they can tune carbs to perfection without the bike they go to being there is full of ****! I don't care if he has the exact same bike. There are too many factors in state of tune from bike to bike to get them right on a bench. He may get you close (not) but not perfect as he claims. Hack. I didn't know you'd sent them to him either or I would have told ya right off you were in for it.

    Anyway. Chuck those other jets in the trash. Or save em for a piped bike. The 17.5s are pretty much useless unless you maybe have pods and a pipe but even then you should be good with stock pilots.

    I agree with Ed. 1 turn out is too close. The bike will tell you where they need to be like I said, but you have to go slow and you have to listen. If you get frustrated turn it off and walk away for a bit. I'm talking minute changes in idle speed.

    You need to do proper plug chops. Running it up the highway will have you in all circuits and give you an over all reading, which is helpful to a point. But if you want to see what a particular circuit is doing, you need to only run in that circuit. That requires marking off your throttle positions (nothing to do with RPM!) and running the bike up the road only in that position then hitting the killswitch before changing position. Do a search lots of info on it. A plug chop will show you exactly whether that circuit is rich or lean or good. Don't go crazy trying to make it perfect or you'll spend a week. Just close. They all work hand in hand.

    But, I would t bother with any of this if you've not done a valve adjustment.

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      #77
      I checked the valves all is well under the cover.. Like i said in the one post..I was a newbie to bike wrenching. Heck i hadnt even heard of the GSR at this point. I was told about George from a bunch of guys at bike night back in Royal Oak Mi. I had been going up to bike nights on my 98 Honda Shadow 1100 VT Spirit. Then i got ahold of the 77. This was the first bike i had to do anything other than change the oil and filters on, so consiquently i was a sucker to bite on anything and got sucked into the hype he has posted on his wbsite and now we all know the troubles and results of that gullableness. Theres a song by Tracy Lawrence called LESSON LEARNED. One of the lyrics say..lessons learned, they dont go away and they dont come cheap ..ture that!!!
      Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-20-2011, 10:22 AM.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #78
        Todays adventure was to recheck all the float levels and the valves as well. I think its note worthy to tell any new guys to be sure to check the float heights at each of the floats in each bowl. I found one that was bent or something and the 2 sides were way off. I had to tweek the floats so they were each at the same heghts.. Just an FYI .
        Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-21-2011, 11:09 PM.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #79
          Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
          Todays adventure was to recheck all the float levels and the valves as well. I think its note worthy to tell any new guys to be sure to check the float heights at each of the floats in each bowl. I founD one that was bent or something and the 2 sides were way off. I had to tweek the floats so they were each at the same heghts.. Just an FYI .
          Nice work chuck. Proper running carbs are about 75% hard work (checking everything before hand) and 25% knowledge (or searching out into).

          Now make yourself a fuel level gauge and check the fuel level by measuring. Measuring float height is just a guess.
          Ed

          To measure is to know.

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            #80
            I gotta get me a piece of clear tubing..but Rustybronco already suggested that as well. I got some running around to do tomorrow so i expect to come home with a chunk. I am also in the hunt for my own set of guages. Any suggestions or experiences of what you guys have is appreciated.. And i dont want to BUILD my own.. I was looking at a Colortune.i think that was the name..whatever.
            Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-21-2011, 11:10 PM.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #81
              Morgan carbtune is the name you are seeking.
              Carbtune motorcycle carburetor synchronizers;polycarbonate tool pouchs;for motorcyclists
              De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

              http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                #82
                man i am about too fall asleep..how did i get all the way to Colortune?? Guess its about shower and pillows time.
                MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                  I found one that was bent or something and the 2 sides were way off. I had to tweek the floats so they were each at the same heghts.. Just an FYI .
                  Chuck, don't you remember anything I taught you? that was one of the things I showed you to double check.

                  now your beginning to grasp it all! good on ya!
                  De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                  http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                    #84
                    Hey i cant remember every detail from 2 summers ago!! But at least i was astute enough to relise i had better check both sides!! Even a blind rat get a piece of cheese now and then..LOL
                    MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                    1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                    NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                    I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      #85
                      Doesn't the side to side difference in a bent float make you wonder how many people check their float height and yet miss that one little detail... sure can make for a bit of variance in the actual fuel height.

                      Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                      Even a blind rat get a piece of cheese now and then..LOL
                      What about one with pinkeye?
                      De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                      http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                        #86
                        Yes. It also poses the possibility of the hingeing of the float on the pin to work stiffer and less responsive than if the leverage was spread evenly across the entire hinge. The amount of gas coming in and the amout going out has to be somehow balanced and if the hinge is weired then so will be the feed..the engine is still demanding the same amout of gas and wont be able to get it and act all funny. Least thats how i see it.
                        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                          #87
                          yeah..wrenching on them with pinkeye and blurred vision and even i can get it..theres still hope!!!!! And dont forget the 2 year old glasses that the prescription was way out of date on..
                          Last edited by chuck hahn; 03-21-2011, 11:42 PM.
                          MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                          1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                          NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                          I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                            I am also in the hunt for my own set of guages. Any suggestions or experiences of what you guys have is appreciated.. And i dont want to BUILD my own.. I was looking at a Colortune.i think that was the name..whatever.
                            Extremely HIGHLY recommended selection (CARBTUNE) I have had 4 other sets of sync gauges in the past 25+ years and all were in extremely good condition and well maintained.

                            Since I got my CARBTUNE's I threw them (my 4 other sets) in the bin!!!!

                            I also got 2x COLORTUNE's (clear glass windowed sparkplugs) and they have proven their worth!

                            I use them in 1 & 3 then 2 & 4
                            Last edited by GS750; 03-22-2011, 08:33 AM.
                            Regards,
                            Andy
                            Queensland Australia

                            http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...h_PIC00011.jpg
                            GS750B (1977)
                            Wiseco 850 kit, K&N pods, 4-1 transac, Custom 2 pak paint, IKON shocks, Custom L.E.D light boards (turn + stop/tail + dash)

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                              #89
                              After doing the float heights, rechecking the valves again, putting some 3 bond around the rubber cam cover ends and letting dry all night, i finally took the 77 750 out and i am happy to report that she has been transformed from the sluggishness of a blood hound to a pure bred greyhound! Lots of quick non hesitant response and she climbs thru the gears like a rocket ship. I then came home and took the 78 750 E for a comparison run..and they are very much similar in performance.. Thanks everyone.
                              MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                              1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                              NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                              I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                                #90
                                And now you are the local carburetor expert.
                                http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

                                Life is too short to ride an L.

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