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    What r these pics telling me?

    The other day my bike started acting up. Popping and backfiring. Thought i would check header bolts, one was loose and tried to tightn when woosh it stripped... helicoil later and Found out it was bad exhaust gaskets. So got those on order, sand blasted the headers and painted. Took a peek and one was heavily carbon deposited... Others were whitish... Let me know what u think of the pix.



    -Mark
    Boston, MA
    Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
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    1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

    #2
    1 cylinder is running too rich, the other 3 are too lean.
    1978 GS1085.

    Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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      #3
      Colortune time?
      -Mark
      Boston, MA
      Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
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      1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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        #4
        Originally posted by mvalenti View Post
        Colortune time?
        guess so. gotta say as well, some of those exhaust bolt threads look a bit damaged to. you may want to look at helicoiling them as well.
        1978 GS1085.

        Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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          #5
          Originally posted by Agemax View Post
          guess so. gotta say as well, some of those exhaust bolt threads look a bit damaged to. you may want to look at helicoiling them as well.
          Good catch will do

          Anyone in my neck of the woods northeast mass, that has a colortune????
          Last edited by mvalenti; 05-03-2013, 08:34 PM.
          -Mark
          Boston, MA
          Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
          sigpic
          1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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            #6
            Check the compression on the white valves cylinders. I hope you didn't burn a valve.
            Also how is your valve clearance?
            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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              #7
              Originally posted by mvalenti View Post
              Good catch will do

              Anyone in my neck of the woods northeast mass, that has a colortune????
              If you don't mind taking a ride to providence RI I know a great guy who owned a suzuki dealership back in the day who can take care of it for you.

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                #8
                Originally posted by overboostin View Post
                If you don't mind taking a ride to providence RI I know a great guy who owned a suzuki dealership back in the day who can take care of it for you.
                I just may do that... Thank you.
                -Mark
                Boston, MA
                Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
                sigpic
                1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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                  #9
                  Not sure what the pictures are telling me, but looking at the title of the thread tells me that the "A" and "E" keys on your keyboard are not always working.

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                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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                  Mom's first ride
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                    #10
                    Lol sorry, doing this all from my phone and forget to mentally shut off text mode...
                    -Mark
                    Boston, MA
                    Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
                    sigpic
                    1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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                      #11

                      Pulled plugs, set closest is a recent install, 3 weeks ago... Left to right 1234... Looks similar to the valves.. Cept more tanish... Guess why i was t alarmed at first.... My fuel pilots were between 1.5 and 2 turns out... Maybe i need to go up a size??
                      -Mark
                      Boston, MA
                      Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
                      sigpic
                      1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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                        #12
                        #1 carb has a problem that has nothing to do with the pilot adjustment. She's over fueled for some reason. Leaking internally, too high of a float level, something...
                        De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                        http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mvalenti View Post
                          Guess why i was t alarmed at first.... My fuel pilots were between 1.5 and 2 turns out... Maybe i need to go up a size??
                          Before you go changing your jets, where were your air pilot screws set?
                          Generally speaking, they should be about double the fuel screw setting, so if they were less than three turns out, you will definitely be running rich on them.

                          What mods to the bike? Pods? Pipe? Cams? All of these will change demand on pilot settings.

                          .
                          sigpic
                          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                          Family Portrait
                          Siblings and Spouses
                          Mom's first ride
                          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                          (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mvalenti View Post
                            [IMG] My fuel pilots were between 1.5 and 2 turns out... Maybe i need to go up a size??
                            So, clarify this situation

                            Your bike was running fine, then something happened?

                            You find #1 is super rich and the rest are lean?

                            You have VM carbs?

                            1.5 to 2 is way too much for the fuel screw, should be 1 or less
                            1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                            1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                            1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                            1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                            1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                            1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                            2007 DRz 400S
                            1999 ATK 490ES
                            1994 DR 350SES

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                              #15
                              talk me off the ledge...

                              Update...

                              So I tore into the carbs over the weekend. cleaned and used compressed air to blow them out... inspected all parts, ... I didnt find anything alarming... I decided to put everything back to stock. this included the mains, mine were up a few sizes. So needle position on #3, 105 mains, fuel screw 1/2 turn out, air screw 1 turn out, new exhaust gaskets, checked carb rubbers for leaks.. I turned to my "custom" intake system, and put a restriction on it. bike fired right up, didnt sound buzzy anymore, sounded more mellow, kinda throaty.. a little idle adjustment and she was running good. went down the street and immediately it felt like it had more torque at lower rpm. it was a 5-10 minute ride, i decided to do a 3rd gear plug chop 1/3 throttle as i pulled into the driveway. plugs looked tan, lighter than i would prefer but darker than before I didnt make any adjustments to the circuit yet. I did a quick compression check... between 120 and 95!!! walked away...fired the bike up last night, #3 cyl is cold... great spark, and gas, 90 psi (cold eng and a little oil) I pulled the cover off and measured the shims, one was in spec (#1 the sooty black one of course) all others were 0.038mm and one was tighter than that.. I'm thinking on pulling the top end off tonight and inspect.... thoughts? prayers? Kinda sad.... I need my blankie...
                              -Mark
                              Boston, MA
                              Suck Squeeze Bang Blow..
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                              1980 GS850G with 79 carbs.....

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