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    Tappet clearance & compression

    Please help. I just adjusted my tappets for the first time and I think I made a mess of it. My piston's compression have either dropped or gone away. Will poor tappet clearance cause this?

    Thank you for your help.

    #2
    Yes it can.

    First of all, WHAT BIKE????

    What method did you use to adjust the valves?

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      #3
      Its a 1982 GS1100LG. I used a feeler gauge, measured the existing tappets, did the math and put new ones in. However, I think I screwed the pooch as one piston that was at 140LBS now has none and another has dropped significantly.

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        #4
        I think you're going to have to take us through the maths to start with. It could be your method but it's easier to start with the maths.
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          #5
          The "maths" part is easily taken care of by taking advantage of the offer in my sig.

          The "method" part might need to be explained, as the process can be easily misunderstood by a first-timer.

          Most don't understand that you set the cam lobes in the position shown in the manual and measure TWO clearances without moving anything. Not measuring with that method can easily give you wrong readings.

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          mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
          hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
          #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
          #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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          Siblings and Spouses
          Mom's first ride
          Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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            #6
            Maybe you put in massive shims and the valves aren't closing. Can't see how you'd lose compression otherwise.
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            2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
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              #7
              My #3 cylinder wasn't firing. I cleaned & adjusted the carbs, adjusted the tappets and put everything back together. Before I did this the compression in #3 was 140lbs, now its almost 0. It would seem it was the tappets. Could the carbs affect the compression?

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                #8
                Originally posted by BigVic54 View Post
                Could the carbs affect the compression?
                If you forget to hold the carb open, it could.

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                hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
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                Siblings and Spouses
                Mom's first ride
                Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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                  #9
                  Perhaps, but it wouldn't read zero.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tkent02 View Post
                    Perhaps, but it wouldn't read zero.
                    Agreed... Typically it would read low, like in the 90's, but not zero.
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                      #11
                      Go back and check clearances, again....according to the exact method in the manual. Chances are you have a couple too tight.
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                        #12
                        I opened it up and checked the clearances again. This time I paid more attention to the location of the lobes on the cams. The gaps were anywhere between 1.0 and 2.0. I've moved some around and will order some new ones. Does anyone think this would be enough to lower the compression?

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                          #13
                          How are you measuring those gaps? They're huge.
                          79 GS1000S
                          79 GS1000S (another one)
                          80 GSX750
                          80 GS550
                          80 CB650 cafe racer
                          75 PC50 - the one with OHV and pedals...
                          75 TS100 - being ridden (suicidally) by my father

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by hampshirehog View Post
                            How are you measuring those gaps? They're huge.
                            I switched a decimal point, sorry. I should have said between .1 and .2

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by BigVic54 View Post
                              I switched a decimal point, sorry. I should have said between .1 and .2
                              Still huge! Should be .03 -.08 mm (.001" - .003")
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