Honda R/R Users Poll

[Curly]

So you have had a Honda R/R mounted for 4 years 5-10K miles right?

Correct.

I would prefer if after changing the stator and you restore operation (and you were convinced it was a stator issue) and it looks uniformly heated (burned ;post a pic) then say you had an issue with a Honda and stator based on your mileage.

I just didn't want to vote before knowing if a burned stator had to be completely inoperative, or if it could still be generating a weakling charge like mine.

[Buddy]

12,000 miles and no problems. R/R mounted on front of frame.

Buddy

[Sandy]

Duaneage,
Can you give us any statistics especially as to any stators that you have seen fried while running a HONDA R/R? Is it 1 in 10, 1 in 100, 1 in 10,000 failed stators using the Honda OR NEVER?
Jim

I put about 8 - 10,000 miles on mine after the R/R conversion. As mentioned I also changed the stator with a used stock one of unknown mileage from a parts bike at the salvage yard so it's history is not great at best and it's been fine.

[rustybronco]

20k with a Honda R/R on the '82 and still going strong.

put a Honda R/R on Chuck Hahn's 750 & one on His 1000C. there might be a issue with the battery draining on one of them (sense wire connected direct to battery). I'll look into it in the spring.

Have a FET style R/R on the '80.

dunno what I'm going to use on my 1000EC yet.

seen a boat load of corroded connections, but no burnt stators so far.

[posplayr]

Thanks Sandy and Rusty; Keep it coming guys. This is helping

[tas850g]

I have put 5k on my 79 850 with a Honda r/r with no problems to my oem 79 850 12 pole stator I got from rustybronco.

I check the vac and vdc periodically and all outputs are with limits(14.2v at 5k rpm's).

I also run a volt meter from showchrome and the output has not changed, knock on wood.

[posplayr]

bruuummp............

[posplayr]

bumpo...................

[bwringer]

Switched to a Honda R/R about 8 or 10 years ago.

The original stator on my GS850G finally went blooey last year at about 102,000 miles.

I doubt it was the R/R's fault...

Replaced with a stator from a 2001 GS500 (yep, really) and no problems at all since.

[posplayr]

Switched to a Honda R/R about 8 or 10 years ago.

The original stator on my GS850G finally went blooey last year at about 102,000 miles.

I doubt it was the R/R's fault...

Replaced with a stator from a 2001 GS500 (yep, really) and no problems at all since.

What did the stator look like? heat damage or other physical interference damage?

[gearhead13]

I have a non-stock R&R on my bike that the po installed, not sure if it is Honda or not (I think it is though). He wired the sense wire wrong and my battery kept boiling away and had to refill it several times until I looked into it and the sense wire was sensing voltage drooped voltage, so I hooked it to a better source. Bought a new battery and havent had a problem since.

[koolaid_kid]

What did the stator look like? heat damage or other physical interference damage?

I believe I have that stator. He gave me two burned out stators earlier this year when I told him I was going to take a stab at rebuilding stators. I would say that it failed of overheating, the standard "all the coils are cooked" look. The wires look fine, there is no evidence of anything melting. IDK about the rest of the system.
I can post a pic if you wish, it is currently untouched b/c I use it as my reference stator.

[posplayr]

I believe I have that stator. He gave me two burned out stators earlier this year when I told him I was going to take a stab at rebuilding stators. I would say that it failed of overheating, the standard "all the coils are cooked" look. The wires look fine, there is no evidence of anything melting. IDK about the rest of the system.
I can post a pic if you wish, it is currently untouched b/c I use it as my reference stator.

Well it would be nice to document for teh rest of our viewer. I understand it was very high mileage though.

I have been a little harsh lumping the Honda units in with the rest of the shunt regulators. For some reason it appears to be less harsh (according to our poll results so far) on stators. It might be that the sense wire accounts for what causes most of the problems which is the resistance between R/R(+) and Battery (+).
The Honda doesnt do anything for ground issues, but the results seem to indicate a much improved result. That is my theory for now.

[crapwacker]

I did install a nice, large fused circuit to my battery when installing mine. So stock wiring was essentially bypassed, possibly averting any stator issues

[koolaid_kid]

This is bwringer's 850 stator with the wiring harness. Note the blue RTV on the rubber cushion/seal, which indicates either a leak occured or he had been in there more than once. The wiring harness appears complete, and I could find no melted bits.


This is what I call the back of the stator (I reserve the right to be incorrect, of course). Everything is toasted, including the wires crossing from pole to pole. I was not able to see any breaks in the epoxy which might have indicated a short to ground.


This is what I call the front of the stator. The three output wires appear in as good of shape as I would expect for a stator with >100k miles. I was unable to equate miles to hours of operation, of course. IDK which would be more important, since miles would indicate higher voltage output, but might include cooling from oil flow.

Some things to note: He did not say how many miles were put on the stator with the original R/R.
Would a stator which had initial damage due to the Suzuki R/R continue to degrade with an improved Honda R/R installed?



This is the stator from my 83 GPz 750. It is not an oil-cooled stator, it just hangs out there on its own. Although low mileage at 15k, I would have expected to see the beginnings of degradation by this mileage. To my untrained eye, it appears brand new.
I would expect the charging system to be a shunt-style design, but that is supposition on my part. The R/R has 6 wires connected to it. The R/R is also placed under the tank behind the engine and appears to be more in the airflow than my GS unit.