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    78 1000,any connector tricks?


    Is there a trick to getting this style of connector free of the housing?

    Would make it easier and better fix for the wires than got toasted if I could get them out.

    #2
    "Is there a trick to getting this style of connector free of the housing?"
    You need a proper pin push tool, I used to have a complete set of them.


    As painful as it sounds I would get a Molex connector set with new pins, the correct crimp tool, and replace both ends. Sounds worse than it is, just pay attention to which goes where. The molex is a better connector anyway.

    The damage is caused by dirty connectors that heated up and melted. If the connection is really good heat will not be generated at the touch point
    Last edited by duaneage; 09-26-2012, 12:01 AM.
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      #3
      Originally posted by duaneage View Post
      "Is there a trick to getting this style of connector free of the housing?"
      You need a proper pin push tool, I used to have a complete set of them.


      As painful as it sounds I would get a Molex connector set with new pins, the correct crimp tool, and replace both ends. Sounds worse than it is, just pay attention to which goes where. The molex is a better connector anyway.

      The damage is caused by dirty connectors that heated up and melted. If the connection is really good heat will not be generated at the touch point
      OK how much would one of those Molex connectors be? I'll ad the at least 50% more it will be up here in Canada

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        #4
        Get a magnifier lamp or eye loup and look at the terminals. I believe those pins have two barbs on each, which if you carefully push in, the terminal can then be extracted from the plastic shell. Once you figure out what to do it's pretty simple work.
        Ed

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          #5
          i used a small finish nail.

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            #6
            Originally posted by SVSooke View Post
            OK how much would one of those Molex connectors be? I'll ad the at least 50% more it will be up here in Canada
            They are cheap. In the US we have a chain called Radio Shack that sells them for a few bucks. They are pretty standard, the tool is about 15 dollars and can crimp a variety of connectors.

            Look at Digikey.com and you'll be surprised what is out there.


            They have every possible connector, pin and crimp tool you can dream of.
            Last edited by duaneage; 09-26-2012, 01:36 AM.
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              #7
              Originally posted by duaneage View Post
              They are cheap. In the US we have a chain called Radio Shack that sells them for a few bucks. They are pretty standard, the tool is about 15 dollars and can crimp a variety of connectors.

              Look at Digikey.com and you'll be surprised what is out there.


              They have every possible connector, pin and crimp tool you can dream of.
              We have Radio Shack up here to.Did an eBay search as well,they are cheap. Checking RS here or ordering it from someplace if it's to expensive here.
              That place you linked to is a nightmare to me.To much stuff,I'm sure it's great if you know how to sift though it better than I can.

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                #8
                Greg, Ed is correct. In absence of the proper tool to unlock the terminal, and yes there is a proper tool for the job, you should be able to depress the barbs with a paper clip or a pin so you can remove the terminal from the plastic connector. Years ago I use to use a metal ball point pen refill, but now that they're plastic...

                Should look similar to this...
                Last edited by rustybronco; 09-26-2012, 08:57 AM.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by rustybronco View Post
                  Greg, Ed is correct. In absence of the proper tool to unlock the terminal, and yes there is a proper tool for the job, you should be able to depress the barbs with a paper clip or a pin so you can remove the terminal from the plastic connector. Years ago I use to use a metal ball point pen refill, but now that they're plastic...
                  That is good to know but even if I get them out the wire would be crimped to them.Going to do some more digging though the parts stash to see if I can find a 83 750 pod to harvest the wires off and match the conector the harness I have got here.There should be at least 1 out there but ............

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                    #10
                    Cut the wire as close as possible to the crimp, open up the two tabs which normally are used to retain the plastic portion of the wire in place, slide the new wire under the two tabs, recrimp and solder.

                    Works in a pinch.

                    Or just use http://www.vintageconnections.com/

                    Opps... I see that they don't ship to Canada now.
                    We've had our fill of the bumbling Canadian postal and customs systems, and of being blamed for their slow deliveries.
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                      #11
                      Let me remove one of the terminals from my harness and see if I can match it up with what we have here (work) on the shelf. If so, I'll be needing your address again...
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by rustybronco View Post
                        Cut the wire as close as possible to the crimp, open up the two tabs which normally are used to retain the plastic portion of the wire in place, slide the new wire under the two tabs, recrimp and solder.

                        Works in a pinch.

                        Or just use http://www.vintageconnections.com/

                        Opps... I see that they don't ship to Canada now.
                        You might be able to email DEL and ask him realy nice to ship to Canada but it can take a while to get due to customs thats why he no longer ships here. Even though he warms you when you order people still complained. His products are deffinatly better than anything we can get here. He also has a one of the tools for pining out

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by SVSooke View Post
                          That place you linked to is a nightmare to me.To much stuff,I'm sure it's great if you know how to sift though it better than I can.
                          They are one of the biggest and have everything, but yes their website practically needs a manual to navigate
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                            #14
                            Feel the wire insulation near the bottom of the plug that is really damaged. They look like they have taken a lot of heat. This might all be a moot point. If that insulation has hardened and lost any flexibility, all you can do in that case is cut the wires at the point where the insulation is normal, and re-extend the wires. If you do that you might as well cut the wires on the relatively undamaged side of the plug as close as possible and find a modern sealed replacement plug, or several plugs to take the place of the old plug. Too many wires in that plug to concentrate heat anyway IMHO.
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by OldVet66 View Post
                              If you do that you might as well cut the wires on the relatively undamaged side of the plug as close as possible and
                              wait until we can see what's in mother Hubbard's cupboard...

                              mother Hubbard has quite a few different terminals in stock!
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