The annoying turn signals

[slyone]

the right turn signal lever usually has to be "cycled" 3-4 times before light comes on and flashes, drives me nuts! I checked BassCliff's mod but my relay only has 2 wire/not 3 wire, mines a 79'GS850 made 10/78 (early) but mine does have the annoying auto-cancel feature too? So, I'm not sure if that mod would work?

[Redman]

Have you concidered that the problem may be the switch itself?

Does one side work better than the other side?


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[slyone]

Yes, left always works, right is the problem and usually will malfunction...plus I hate the auto-cancel(too early) so was very excited to see the mod on BassCliff's page but he's got it for the 3-wire(newer) model.. There must be a mod for this one?

[koolaid_kid]

I believe Dave is suggesting that you may wish to investigate the contacts on the switch itself. Changing relays will not help if the switch is faulty. And I agree, I loathe all self-cancelling turn signals for exactly the same reason.

[sedelen]

Sounds like that 1st Generation Turn Signal Control Unit (TSCU) to me. Was used on the '79 GS850's and '78, 79 GS1000's other than the C model. Had the same problem, drove me nuts.
Finally fixed it by replacing the TSCU, found only one fully servicable one out of about 20 I checked.
They look like this.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130741442006?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

There are mods out there that, but you lose that self canceling feature,
and yes they're still available new, providing you want to pay the $370 plus shipping.
Item 26 this fiche.

http://www.boulevardsuzuki.com/fiche_section_detail.asp?section=95127&category=Motorcycles&make=SUZUKI&year=1979&fveh=2141

[slyone]

so yes, I have 1st gen auto and yes I want to perform mod to remove auto-cancel..on the cheap That 2nd gen mod of basscliff's seems so sweet and simple. I need a simple solution cause I'm a simple guy

[koolaid_kid]

...There are mods out there that, but you lose that self canceling feature...

Steve, this is exactly what he wants anyway. If you can post a link, that would be a good thing. I was never so glad when the self-canceling "feature" broke on my GS and I could make my own decision on when to cancel.

[slyone]

I was under the impression if I changed my relay(2wire) with that one from autozone, my turn signals would work good and I would lose auto-function? A kinda win/win solution for less than $50.00..

[sedelen]

I was under the impression if I changed my relay(2wire) with that one from autozone, my turn signals would work good and I would lose auto-function? A kinda win/win solution for less than $50.00..

I really like to verify that for you, but I didn't have to modify my bike in anyway, just found a good TSCU, however if you PM "rustybronco" on this I'm sure he'll have an answer for you.

[slyone]

I'll pm rusty, I don't want to buy a "used tscu" and I certainly won't buy a new one, cause I can't afford it..
just a simple/low cost/solid remedy is what I'm after

[rustybronco]

These solutions should get you working signals

The simplest way is here> http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...3&postcount=21

A few relays and voila! you can have working signals without opening up the left hand control> http://thegsresources.com/_forum/new...eply&p=1623484

And some links for your perusal> http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...9&postcount=19

[robertbarr]

And, if needed, for the pre-80 bar controls:

It's not exactly a tutorial, but it'll show you the guts of the matter. If your bar control is as nasty inside as this one was, the only surprise is that it works at all.

You'll also see the horn contacts, a weak spot on most of these bikes. Note that you have to polish the top & bottom coil of the spring as well, because current has to flow through it; lots of ways for resistance to add up, and it's why bikes this old will have non-functional or pathetic horns without using a relay.

Anyway, this era of bar control is a bunch simpler than many others. Don't feel too afraid to dig in.

[slyone]

And, if needed, for the pre-80 bar controls:

It's not exactly a tutorial, but it'll show you the guts of the matter. If your bar control is as nasty inside as this one was, the only surprise is that it works at all.

You'll also see the horn contacts, a weak spot on most of these bikes. Note that you have to polish the top & bottom coil of the spring as well, because current has to flow through it; lots of ways for resistance to add up, and it's why bikes this old will have non-functional or pathetic horns without using a relay.

Anyway, this era of bar control is a bunch simpler than many others. Don't feel too afraid to dig in.

Oh that's funny bout the horns cause after disturbing them w/valve adj. my horns now sound like a model T Ford for some reason?!!lol well not actually funny

[Redman]

Yes, left always works, right is the problem and usually will malfunction...plus I hate the auto-cancel(too early) so was very excited to see the mod on BassCliff's page but he's got it for the 3-wire(newer) model.. There must be a mod for this one?

You say the left always works, the right usally doesnt work, but if try it 4 -5 times can get it to work. I would concider that to intermittent.

Reason I suspect the switch is this:

The control unit is electronic. Electronics are seldom intermittent, maybe they are temperature dpendant, will work when cool and fail when warm, but seldome intermittent. Usally when it fails, it is going to stay that way and never work again.

The switch is electro-mechanical. Electro-mechanical can be intermittent. SOme contact doesnt quite make up right, but if you just happen to mov e it in some particular way, then it does work.

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[slyone]

I disassembled bar switch and found a surprising amout of what I believe to be corrosion on the contacts board so I wiped it clean and used a pencil eraser to clean further...maybe that was it? Ya think I should get any spray or special grease for it before reassembly? ps. sorry about the oof poor pic