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Is this common prioblem with charging systems..
Been working on a 85 GS 1150 It charges 14.6-.8 at idle then when revving the engine to approx 4500 r.p.m's it drops to about 13.8 or so. Over a volt loss....I've cleaned all connections, grounds etc.Could just high resistance in these old wires cause the problem.I searched the site some..Thanks..Last edited by gs11ezrydr; 10-01-2021, 05:56 PM.sigpic 82 gs1100ez 1168 Wiseco,Web .348 Cams,Falicon Sprockets,Star Racing Ported Head,1mm o/s Stainless Valves,APE Springs,Bronze Guides,etc.APE Billet Tensioner,36CV Carbs,Stage 3 Dynojet,Plenum w/K&N filter,Trued,Welded,Balanced,Crank w/Katana rods & Billet left end, FBG backcut trans, VHR HD Clutch basket,APE nut,VHR High volume oil pump gears,1150 Oil cooler,V&H Megaphone header w/Competition baffle,Dyna S,Coils,Wires,etc.Other misc.mods.Tags: None
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You could measure the voltage drops on the pos and neg lines between the R/R output and the battery.
There will be some resistance and as the charging current increases the voltage drop will increase.
Ideally a tenth of a Volt at 5000 rpm between the R/R positive and the battery positive and between the R/R ground wire and the battery neg.97 R1100R
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Originally posted by Brendan W View PostYou could measure the voltage drops on the pos and neg lines between the R/R output and the battery.
There will be some resistance and as the charging current increases the voltage drop will increase.
Ideally a tenth of a Volt at 5000 rpm between the R/R positive and the battery positive and between the R/R ground wire and the battery neg.Last edited by gs11ezrydr; 09-30-2021, 06:11 AM.sigpic 82 gs1100ez 1168 Wiseco,Web .348 Cams,Falicon Sprockets,Star Racing Ported Head,1mm o/s Stainless Valves,APE Springs,Bronze Guides,etc.APE Billet Tensioner,36CV Carbs,Stage 3 Dynojet,Plenum w/K&N filter,Trued,Welded,Balanced,Crank w/Katana rods & Billet left end, FBG backcut trans, VHR HD Clutch basket,APE nut,VHR High volume oil pump gears,1150 Oil cooler,V&H Megaphone header w/Competition baffle,Dyna S,Coils,Wires,etc.Other misc.mods.
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13.8 at idle is not bad at all. It's not a volt "loss", it just hasn't been generated. Our crude permanent-magnet alternators simply generate as much as they can, all the time. At lower engine speeds, it simply does not generate full voltage, but 13.8 volts is still charging the battery, so don't worry about it.
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Originally posted by phydeauxmutt View Post13.8 at idle is not bad at all. It's not a volt "loss", it just hasn't been generated. Our crude permanent-magnet alternators simply generate as much as they can, all the time. At lower engine speeds, it simply does not generate full voltage, but 13.8 volts is still charging the battery, so don't worry about it.sigpic 82 gs1100ez 1168 Wiseco,Web .348 Cams,Falicon Sprockets,Star Racing Ported Head,1mm o/s Stainless Valves,APE Springs,Bronze Guides,etc.APE Billet Tensioner,36CV Carbs,Stage 3 Dynojet,Plenum w/K&N filter,Trued,Welded,Balanced,Crank w/Katana rods & Billet left end, FBG backcut trans, VHR HD Clutch basket,APE nut,VHR High volume oil pump gears,1150 Oil cooler,V&H Megaphone header w/Competition baffle,Dyna S,Coils,Wires,etc.Other misc.mods.
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That sounds like symptoms of a bad RR to me. It may just be a bad ground. Try running one direct from the RR to the battery & see if it changes anything. If not fit a Mosfet one. The SH775 series type is best as it protects the stator but the FH020 Shunt type are cheaper. I probably have one of those you can buy if you want it.1980 GS1000G - Sold
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Originally posted by salty_monk View PostThat sounds like symptoms of a bad RR to me. It may just be a bad ground. Try running one direct from the RR to the battery & see if it changes anything. If not fit a Mosfet one. The SH775 series type is best as it protects the stator but the FH020 Shunt type are cheaper. I probably have one of those you can buy if you want it.Last edited by gs11ezrydr; 10-07-2021, 06:57 AM.sigpic 82 gs1100ez 1168 Wiseco,Web .348 Cams,Falicon Sprockets,Star Racing Ported Head,1mm o/s Stainless Valves,APE Springs,Bronze Guides,etc.APE Billet Tensioner,36CV Carbs,Stage 3 Dynojet,Plenum w/K&N filter,Trued,Welded,Balanced,Crank w/Katana rods & Billet left end, FBG backcut trans, VHR HD Clutch basket,APE nut,VHR High volume oil pump gears,1150 Oil cooler,V&H Megaphone header w/Competition baffle,Dyna S,Coils,Wires,etc.Other misc.mods.
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Originally posted by bitzz View PostCheck the AC output of the stator
If the AC voltage doesn't drop with revs: You have a regulator problem
If the AC voltage does drop with revs: You have a stator problemsigpic 82 gs1100ez 1168 Wiseco,Web .348 Cams,Falicon Sprockets,Star Racing Ported Head,1mm o/s Stainless Valves,APE Springs,Bronze Guides,etc.APE Billet Tensioner,36CV Carbs,Stage 3 Dynojet,Plenum w/K&N filter,Trued,Welded,Balanced,Crank w/Katana rods & Billet left end, FBG backcut trans, VHR HD Clutch basket,APE nut,VHR High volume oil pump gears,1150 Oil cooler,V&H Megaphone header w/Competition baffle,Dyna S,Coils,Wires,etc.Other misc.mods.
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