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    Never done this before 79 GS1000L

    Rode 16 mile then 4 hours later another 2 miles. Took 30 minutes and got back on. Didn't fire up immediately (not normal) but noticed a different sound, another 100m and on the road. There was no power but still ran, Exaust note sounded funny, like not all 4 were working. Started to dread my 16 mile commute home, almost at my destination 2 miles later it surged and we were back on. A couple of spins outside the office and all was well and experience was written off as a "fluke". The ride home went well for the for the first 8 miles then it did it again but after a few surges all was normal. My experience with mechanics is that issues will either get better or worse, most likely worse. No smoke, backfire, or weird emissions. So far I have been successful at doing maintenance and some electrical diagnosis but this one has me beat, it could be anything and my experience at troubleshooting other mechanicals is nil, why I come here. Any ideas?

    #2
    dirty gas?

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      #3
      I thought this one as its obviously low hanging fruit but my filter is 3 months old and the see through type, looks great, so I'm giving this one thumbs down but thanks for the feedback.

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        #4
        What's your baseline look like? What basic maintenance has been done and how long ago?

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          #5
          Gonzo,

          Not sure what you mean by baseline?

          Recent engine maintenance has been new plugs and oil change. I replaced stator, r/r in March and went to Dyna ingnition in April.

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            #6
            points / condensers if you have original ignition

            ask me how I know.
            Yamaha fz1 2007

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              #7
              "Never done this before " Thats what the farmer said when the horse died .
              No really check your fuel petcock, and your tank vent make sure that they are working properly
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                #8
                Hi,

                "Baseline" = all of the maintenance tasks in the "mega-welcome". Have you taken any shortcuts on the maintenance?


                Thank you for your indulgence,

                BassCliff

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                  #9
                  It sounds like a fuel system problem. You mentioned you have a fuel filter. I'd suggest taking it out of the equation and seeing if your symptoms improve.

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                    #10
                    You're either dropping a coil or having fuel starvation.
                    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                      #11
                      check for loose connections to coil
                      check for loose spark plug caps

                      if it's not either of those, it's likely Fuel Related

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                        #12
                        Hey guys,

                        Been too busy to work on this issue but had some time last weekend read the replies, many thanks, and right off found the vacuum hose between 1&2 carbs disconnected??? I hooked it back up and have run 2 tanks through and the issue is no more. This does raise some questions though and I see many posts about bad petcocks. I assume this petcock is the original. Over the couple of years i've had this bike I have had it in all positions in all driving conditions and it runs the same. Maybe this is okay? If this needs service which is best, new one OEM at $100+ or rebuild at 1/3 the cost. I don't cut corners and if a $70 decision is what puts me on this side of the road versus done and forget about, for me its a no brainer, please advise.

                        Thanks

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                          #13
                          Thanks for follow up. You can keep testing your old petcock to be sure or just opt to replace it and forget about it for 20 years.
                          1981 gs650L

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rodman View Post
                            ... found the vacuum hose between 1&2 carbs disconnected???
                            Confusing, as there is no "vacuum" hose between 1&2.

                            There is a VENT hose and a FUEL TUBE, but the only vacuum hose in the entire set goes from #3 to the petcock.

                            Having a loose VENT hose should not show the symptoms you described.

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                              #15
                              Steve,

                              This is not good news for me, here I thought I was done with this. I guess as with all mechanicals, it will get worse over time. I'll wait it out and see what happens.

                              Thanks

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