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    Dielectric grease

    Just thought I would mention this as I see a lot of folks talking about putting Dielectric grease directly on the contacts.

    From below:

    The grease again acts as a lubricant and a sealant on the nonconductive mating surfaces of the connector. It is not recommended to be applied to the actual electrical conductive contacts of the connector because it could interfere with the electrical signals passing through the connector in cases where the contact pressure is very low.


    For more detail here is the full article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon...lectric_grease



    Dielectric grease is electrically insulating and does not break down when high voltage is applied. It is often applied to electrical connectors, particularly those containing rubber gaskets, as a means of lubricating and sealing rubber portions of the connector without arcing.
    A common use of dielectric grease is in high-voltage connections associated with gasoline engine spark plugs. The grease is applied to the rubber boot of the plug wire. This helps the rubber boot slide onto the ceramic insulator of the plug. The grease also acts to seal the rubber boot, while at the same time preventing the rubber from becoming stuck to the ceramic. Generally spark plugs are located in areas of high temperature, and the grease is formulated to withstand the temperature range expected. It can be applied to the actual contact as well, because the contact pressure is sufficient to penetrate the grease. Doing so on such high pressure contact surfaces has the advantage of sealing the contact area against corrosion.
    Another common use of dielectric grease is on the rubber mating surfaces or gaskets of multi-pin electrical connectors used in automotive and marine engines. The grease again acts as a lubricant and a sealant on the nonconductive mating surfaces of the connector. It is not recommended to be applied to the actual electrical conductive contacts of the connector because it could interfere with the electrical signals passing through the connector in cases where the contact pressure is very low. Products designed as electronic connector lubricants, on the other hand, should be applied to such connector contacts and can dramatically extend their useful life. Polyphenyl Ether, rather than silicone grease, is the active ingredient in some such connector lubricants.
    Silicone grease should not be applied to (or next to) any switch contact that might experience arcing, as silicone can convert to silicon-carbide under arcing conditions, and accumulation of the silicon-carbide can cause the contacts to prematurely fail. (British Telecom had this problem in the 1970s when silicone Symel® sleeving was used in telephone exchanges. Vapour from the sleeving migrated to relay contacts and the resultant silicon-carbide caused intermittent connection.)


    Thanks,
    Dave
    Last edited by 5azzmonkey; 03-21-2013, 01:31 PM.
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    #2
    So the millions over the years that use it on bikes and autos and dont hve any problems to report are just all lucky then...according to the articles accertions.
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      #3
      The link to the original article seems to be missing.

      The key issue is contact pressure. A sloppy fit in a connector is going to result in arcing and burning anyway. So make sure they're tight. For example, the stock bullets (after a cleaning) sometimes need the female half squeezed with pliers to tighten the connection up a bit. Shoot in some dielectric, follow it with the bullet. Everything is fine.

      A lube specifically designed for electrical contacts shouldn't be worse.
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        #4
        I always squeeze the female ends to assure a good soild contact. I use the grease as an anti corrosion ( oxidation ) treatment.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          If it's electrically insulating, why do the automotice manufacturers recommend putting it on the tips of distributor rotors?
          De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

          http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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            #6
            Originally posted by Dogma View Post
            The link to the original article seems to be missing.

            The key issue is contact pressure. A sloppy fit in a connector is going to result in arcing and burning anyway. So make sure they're tight. For example, the stock bullets (after a cleaning) sometimes need the female half squeezed with pliers to tighten the connection up a bit. Shoot in some dielectric, follow it with the bullet. Everything is fine.

            A lube specifically designed for electrical contacts shouldn't be worse.
            It is non-conductive, but when you slide the connectors together there is metal-to-metal contact and the grease gets displaced but the area around connector is protected from moisture.

            Very important to have a tight fit.

            Link to original article: I'll also edit/add it to the first post

            82 GS1100E
            five asses because it's far superior to having just four!
            Yes, I watched too much South Park!

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              #7
              Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
              I always squeeze the female ends to assure a good soild contact.
              Kinky tell me more...

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                #8
                Originally posted by rustybronco View Post
                If it's electrically insulating, why do the automotice manufacturers recommend putting it on the tips of distributor rotors?
                It keeps moisture away from the contact points.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                  I always squeeze the female ends to assure a good soild contact. I use the grease as an anti corrosion ( oxidation ) treatment.
                  Maybe if it needs anti-corrosion grease, you might need to find a younger female end?...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by wkmpt View Post
                    It keeps moisture away from the contact points.
                    It's there to suppress EMI.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 5azzmonkey View Post
                      It is non-conductive, but when you slide the connectors together there is metal-to-metal contact and the grease gets displaced but the area around connector is protected from moisture.

                      Very important to have a tight fit.

                      Link to original article: I'll also edit/add it to the first post

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon...lectric_grease
                      That's a lot of article with only one reference at the bottom. It could use a lot of "citation needed". Personally, I wouldn't use that article as more than a starting place to get ideas to research the topic more thoroughly. I'm not saying the article is largely wrong. There's just not much there convincing me it's right. A brief look at the history of that article makes it look about as authoritative as the conversation we're having here.
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                      '80 GS1000 GT
                      '01 ZRX1200R

                      How to get a "What's New" feed without the Vortex, and without permanently quitting the Vortex

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by rustybronco View Post
                        It's there to suppress EMI.
                        Yeah, that too...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dogma View Post
                          That's a lot of article with only one reference at the bottom. It could use a lot of "citation needed". Personally, I wouldn't use that article as more than a starting place to get ideas to research the topic more thoroughly. I'm not saying the article is largely wrong. There's just not much there convincing me it's right. A brief look at the history of that article makes it look about as authoritative as the conversation we're having here.

                          The name says it all ... Dielectric --- meaning insulating

                          I searched quickly for a white paper but only found this data sheet from Loctite

                          Notice the breakdown strength of 19.8 KV/mm

                          https://tds.us.henkel.com//NA/UT/HNA...le/DIEG-EN.pdf
                          82 GS1100E
                          five asses because it's far superior to having just four!
                          Yes, I watched too much South Park!

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                            #14
                            If you ever use too much grease, come back a few weeks later, and it turns all crispy and Green.

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                              #15
                              Would it be good for spark plug threads ? Or is nothing a better option ?
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