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    Gas tank weld - small pin hole

    I have this pin hole. thinking of spot welding it. any considerations other than flush the gas out beforehand (that step was already done, liquid leaking here is evapo-rust not gasoline)



    history of this rust pinhole here - http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...2&postcount=15
    1981 GS750L - Owned since 1990 when graduated high school and since have been discovering all the things not disclosed by seller.
    1983 GS750E - bought in 2016 as a rough runner to use while rebuilding 81L and then to combine with ES to make one good one
    1983 GS750ES - bought in Toronto in 2015 on a lark as a non-runner, missing front cowling and exhaust - If you have a 1983 750ES front cowling let me know! Blue would be nice

    #2
    When I have poked around pinholes like these, there have usually been 10 - 20 other holes just waiting to open up.
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...tatesMap-1.jpg

    Life is too short to ride an L.

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      #3
      This was a hole about 1/8 wide and 1 inch long. I broke off the rusted edges and got to solid metal. Then I started spot welding around the edges goingb spot next to spot till I had circled my way to the center.

      This built up a good base to lay a little silver solder onto. Next I ground it down and smoothed with a MILL SMOOTH file.

      Once satisfied with the shape and it being a good base, I redid the silver solder to be sure all pin holes were filled. Then as a filler to sand on and get the corner reconstructed, I use some JB weld.

      Once all that was done, the tamk liner went in and it was shipped to Larry for paint.. Here is the repair and them painted tank


      My repair job...everything you see in that darkest area on the lower seam and back corner is the HOLE(S) that I repaired. So yes it can be done with some skill and patience.




      The painted tank..totally unnoticble repair....click on picture to view larger images.



      Last edited by chuck hahn; 07-13-2013, 04:31 PM.
      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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        #4
        HINT....Do a few spots side by side and let the tank cool. This keeps the thin metal from getting too hot from rushing the job and melting away.

        Zap..wait a seoncd..zap..wait a second..zap..then let it cool a few minutes. The restart the process and ever so slowly work your way around the hole till you've built up some thicker spot welds. Now you can start to do it a little faster..but still stop and allow it to cool down to prevent melt offs.

        Do some more and so on.
        MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
        1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

        NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


        I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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          #5
          Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
          HINT....Do a few spots side by side and let the tank cool. This keeps the thin metal from getting too hot from rushing the job and melting away.
          should have double checked this thread before plugging in the welder. I now have a dime sized hole
          Last edited by Andrew Vanis; 07-13-2013, 05:23 PM.
          1981 GS750L - Owned since 1990 when graduated high school and since have been discovering all the things not disclosed by seller.
          1983 GS750E - bought in 2016 as a rough runner to use while rebuilding 81L and then to combine with ES to make one good one
          1983 GS750ES - bought in Toronto in 2015 on a lark as a non-runner, missing front cowling and exhaust - If you have a 1983 750ES front cowling let me know! Blue would be nice

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            #6
            OK...so shake out the slag that has fallen in and start around the edges again..this time a few quick zaps. By quick in mean hit the trigger and just make it spark a dot on. Let it cool a second and do another right next to the first. Youll get your own "feel" for how quick and how long to wait between zaps real quick.

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            That or take it to a shop and have them braze in a patch to cover it. Looks like its on the bottom anyway and wont be seen. Be sure to tell them the metal is only about 20/1000ths thick.
            MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
            1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

            NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


            I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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              #7
              For a dime sized hole I'd make a patch. Don't try to fill something that big with weld alone.
              Ed

              To measure is to know.

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                #8
                Originally posted by chuck hahn View Post
                braze in a patch to cover it...... the metal is only about 20/1000ths thick.
                I can braze (i think) it I go that direction, anything to keep in mind other than clean, flux, and rod?

                no wonder it just evaporated even on the lowest setting.
                1981 GS750L - Owned since 1990 when graduated high school and since have been discovering all the things not disclosed by seller.
                1983 GS750E - bought in 2016 as a rough runner to use while rebuilding 81L and then to combine with ES to make one good one
                1983 GS750ES - bought in Toronto in 2015 on a lark as a non-runner, missing front cowling and exhaust - If you have a 1983 750ES front cowling let me know! Blue would be nice

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                  #9
                  Do some testing on where the rod melts as to the flame..then use that setting. A torch can just as easily pop a hole as the welder can. If your in doubt, have a shop braze a patch over it for you.
                  MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                  1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                  NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                  I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                    #10
                    IF the metal is thick enough to support tapering the edge of the hole, then that's what I would do. Enlarge the hole and bevel its edge in order to fit an easily handled equally beveled patch. Use a die grinder or a rat tail file the bevel the hole and bevel the edge of the patch by filing it's edge as needed to best fit the hole, then braze the patch in place.

                    Repairing the burn through by this method will allow for the minimum amount of filler necessary to hide the repair. Plus it's considered better workmanship than just slapping a patch over the rusted area, bashing it down and hitting it with a coat of filler.

                    Are you doing a restoration project of some kind on a GS? Let everyone see what you are doing by posting the details here.


                    De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

                    http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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