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Confused over Dyna coils and spark plugs
Okay, so I just bought some Dyna coils from z1. I got the green 3 ohm factory replacement ones to be exact. I also got these plug wires from z1. So I was doing some trial fitting and that's when I got confused. I thought with dyna coils, you can use normal automotive type plug cables but the spark plugs are anything but normal. It's got a little threaded bit on top of it. So will I have to use plug caps after all? Or do I have to use different plugs? I have some more questions but I'll leave it at that to keep it from getting confusing. Thanks for the help.
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Use those wires and keep that threaded piece on the top of the plug. You have to remove the threaded bit when using the factory plug caps but not with automotive style.Ed
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If the plugs caps from Dyna don't fit the plugs with the threaded connector you can install the proper piece on to your spark plug. They are just a threaded piece that goes on the plug. If you don't have any a new set of NGK's will.'84 GS750EF (Oct 2015 BOM) '79 GS1000N (June 2007 BOM) My Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/soates50/
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Originally posted by Nessism View PostUse those wires and keep that threaded piece on the top of the plug. You have to remove the threaded bit when using the factory plug caps but not with automotive style.
My other question is about using a resistor in series with the plugs. I was reading the archives and from what I gathered, if you use solid core wires you need to use the caps, and if you use stranded core you don't need them. I have no idea what kind of wires they are. Can anyone else tell from my link above what they are? Thanks for the help so far.
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Normally it's either solid core wire and resistor cap or suppressor wire and regular caps. Since you have solid core wire and regular caps I'm not sure what to suggest. You could always pick up some supressor core wires at an autoparts store and send those others back to Z1. Or maybe try using resistor core plugs? Not sure.Ed
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Originally posted by Nessism View PostNormally it's either solid core wire and resistor cap or suppressor wire and regular caps. Since you have solid core wire and regular caps I'm not sure what to suggest. You could always pick up some supressor core wires at an autoparts store and send those others back to Z1. Or maybe try using resistor core plugs? Not sure.
Ok that's what I was afraid of. I'll give z1 a call. Hopefully they'll take back an opened bag of spark plug wires. Thanks for all of your help.
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Thats why I didnt get the wires from dyna, have to try and track down the little alum pieces to screw onto the plug, that the plugs dont come with. I was able to get universal plug wires, then cut them and used my NGK resistor plug caps. There has to be a resistor in the line, from the plug caps, wires or plugs.
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Originally posted by gearhead13 View PostThats why I didnt get the wires from dyna, have to try and track down the little alum pieces to screw onto the plug, that the plugs dont come with. I was able to get universal plug wires, then cut them and used my NGK resistor plug caps. There has to be a resistor in the line, from the plug caps, wires or plugs.'85 GS550L - SOLD
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Originally posted by Theo View PostMy other question is about using a resistor in series with the plugs. I was reading the archives and from what I gathered, if you use solid core wires you need to use the caps, and if you use stranded core you don't need them. I have no idea what kind of wires they are. Can anyone else tell from my link above what they are? Thanks for the help so far.
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* wire core- non resistor style plug wires.
put what ever plug boots/ends you have on those wires. resistor/non resistor it won't matter. unless you are listening to A.M. radio, then it will be a tad noisy.
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Originally posted by hikermikem View PostAll the dyna wire sets I've bought (both solid core and suppresion wires) have come with the screw-on ends to fit on the threaded plug ends.
I was really looking for nice yellow Accel 8mm copper core wires, but nobody around here carries them or had even seen them for years.
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Originally posted by gearhead13 View PostThats why I didnt get the wires from dyna, have to try and track down the little alum pieces to screw onto the plug, that the plugs dont come with. I was able to get universal plug wires, then cut them and used my NGK resistor plug caps. There has to be a resistor in the line, from the plug caps, wires or plugs.
Originally posted by rustybronco View Post"Dyna Ignition Wires - 7mm copper core* (black)"
* wire core- non resistor style plug wires.
put what ever plug boots/ends you have on those wires. resistor/non resistor it won't matter. unless you are listening to A.M. radio, then it will be a tad noisy.
Well thanks for all of the help so far. I appreciate it.
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Originally posted by Theo View PostWhere did you find that footnote or is that your own addition? I have to say that I'm still confused. Nessism is saying that I need suppressor core wire to run with out caps and you are saying that I don't? I like your way more because I don't have to buy and or return anything but I don't want to mess anything up.
Aw shucks. AM has the best stuff.
Well thanks for all of the help so far. I appreciate it.
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what I am saying is, you can use a stranded core wire like you purchased, without using a resistor style plug end (boot, cap, end, what ever you would like to call it). it may cause electrical interference issue with the igniter, but I have never heard of the radiated EMI from using a combination of non-resistor wires and spark plugs creating an issue and I don't suspect you will ether.
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Originally posted by Theo View Postand from what I gathered, if you use solid core wires you need to use the caps, and if you use stranded core you don't need them.
resistor style plug wires are made of fiberglass/kevlar* and carbon/graphite*.
*for the most part they are...
if you are concerned about doing it this way, just go buy a set of resistor plugs (br8es?) and screw them in the plug holes.Last edited by rustybronco; 12-31-2009, 03:42 PM.
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Originally posted by rustybronco View Postthe foot note is my inclusion.
what I am saying is, you can use a stranded core wire like you purchased, without using a resistor style plug end (boot, cap, end, what ever you would like to call it). it may cause electrical interference issue with the igniter, but I have never heard of the radiated EMI from using a combination of non-resistor wires and spark plugs creating an issue and I don't suspect you will ether.
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The wires you bought are stranded core wires. solid core wire would be to hard to bend .
resistor style plug wires are made of fiberglass/kevlar* and carbon/graphite*.
*for the most part they are...
if you are concerned about doing it this way, just go buy a set of resistor plugs (br8es?) and screw them in the plug holes.
Awesome. Thanks for all of the info. I'm gonna live life on the wild side and not use any resistor caps as per your suggestion. If it doesn't work out though...you better watch out . Well once again, thanks for all of the help and replies. Much appreciated.
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Originally posted by Theo View PostIf it doesn't work out though...you better watch out .
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