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    Quick clutch springs question

    Is replacing (upgrading) all 6 clutch springs likely to have much more effect than having just done the 3 (which had minimal effect) ?
    (addressing slipping clutch under power)
    thanx

    #2
    Yes
    ........................
    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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      #3
      thanx Bill. I'm going in again.

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        #4
        Did you get stock springs?
        Also deglaze the steels with some steel whool
        1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
        1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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          #5
          Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
          Did you get stock springs?
          Also deglaze the steels with some steel whool
          Barret (sp) stiffies.
          hmmm go deeper huh? I got time awaiting starter clutch bolts so why not!
          Thanx!!

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            #6
            Aftermarket springs are stiffer than stock. Many people use half OE and half aftermarket, since full aftermarket makes the hand effort high.
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              #7
              With three stock springs (good ones) and three Barnett HD you should be fine with a stock motor and good steels and fibers.
              Got a caliper? Spec the fibers and steels.
              1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
              1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                Aftermarket springs are stiffer than stock. Many people use half OE and half aftermarket, since full aftermarket makes the hand effort high.
                no wifey, my wrists are pretty strong
                but did the 3 and 3. no real improvement.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                  With three stock springs (good ones) and three Barnett HD you should be fine with a stock motor and good steels and fibers.
                  Got a caliper? Spec the fibers and steels.
                  well the 3 stock I removed were obviously original (37K miles)
                  hmmm
                  no calipers but I need to score some
                  cheers

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                    #10
                    Put the six Barnett in then.
                    Worn out springs won't help much.
                    Go to autozone and get some calipers. Good fibers will spec out at 28mm.
                    Can't remember the steels.
                    No sense in putting it back together without checking it all out.
                    1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                    1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                      Go to autozone and get some calipers. Good fibers will spec out at 28mm.
                      Can't remember the steels.
                      No sense in putting it back together without checking it all out.
                      can I assume 2.8mm with respect to the minimum fiber thickness? I'll get some calipers tomorrow.
                      here's a photo of the steels (don't know if this will be telltale or not) ... but I'll guess that some steel wool certainly won't do any harm.
                      Thanx again

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                        #12
                        Yes 2.8
                        sorry
                        My manual is in Bakersfield and going on memory. 28mm is pretty silly though.
                        1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                        1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                          #13
                          it was a legit number for this rookie, until I actually undid some bolts and figured the diameter wasn't 28mm / the circumference isn't 28mm ("oh, maybe there's simply a missing decimal point!?" ...bladdy blah blah ... bear with me ...)
                          but I am a 'quick study'.
                          much appreciated
                          the Extra Special will live again jaja

                          Originally posted by chef1366 View Post
                          Yes 2.8
                          sorry
                          My manual is in Bakersfield and going on memory. 28mm is pretty silly though.
                          Last edited by Guest; 08-19-2011, 12:20 AM.

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                            #14
                            2.6 is the minimum but I've always had slippage if it measured much under 2.8.
                            I'm big and my bike ain't stock.
                            1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                            1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                              #15
                              lame photo I know ... OLD camera ... but when is it obvious that a clutch basket is fried?? ... there's lots of 'gnurling' (?) on the ridges

                              AND ... how many plates and fibres are there s'pose to be?? (1100ES) ... it wasn't obvious to me looking at a fiche ... I THINK I may have an extra of both 10 & 11 (?) ... I'll recheck in the morning before the beers

                              thanx for any input

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