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    Dyna S alternative - GM HEI on a former points ign. bike?

    After shelling out a ton of cash for two Dyna S ignition pickup/modules in two years for the same bike (Dyna 1-4 pickup died on the 77 GS550 just out of warranty), I am looking to probably upgrade the points on my GS750 to the GM HEI ignition module mod.

    What I was wondering, whether or not the early 80's models that switched over to electronic ignition would swap the ignition pickup parts directly into a points engine? And if so, do they still use a mechanical advancer similar to the points setup? I am looking for the most reliable electronic ignition setup and a better spark, with less maintenance than points. What factory parts are the best bet for me to look for?

    Is there a big advantage to go with a different set of coils at this time as well?
    '77 GS750 920cc heavily modded
    '97 Kawasaki KDX220R rugged terrain ripper!
    '99 Kawasaki KDX220R​ rebuild in progress
    '79 GS425stock
    PROJECTS:
    '77 Suzuki PE250 woods racer
    '77 GS550 740cc major mods
    '77 GS400 489cc racer build
    '76 Rickman CR1000 GS1000/1100
    '78 GS1000C/1100

    #2
    Pete has a great product and has been making these systems for the Ymaha 650 twin for years. 5 year warranty and works with stock coils. $115 shipped. http://www.gsignition.com/
    Last edited by Guest; 08-18-2012, 11:45 PM.

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      #3
      I use ACCEL and nothing else- Dyna just doesn't last for me-

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        #4
        Originally posted by Chuck78 View Post
        What I was wondering, whether or not the early 80's models that switched over to electronic ignition would swap the ignition pickup parts directly into a points engine? And if so, do they still use a mechanical advancer similar to the points setup?
        I think I have seen reports of using the '80 or '81 pickuips on earlier bikes. They still use the same mechanical advance unit. I don't remember if it was '82 or '83 when they started putting the advance into the ignitor. You could probably search the parts fiche on '82 and ''83 bikes to see whether they compare to the '81s.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Steve View Post
          I don't remember if it was '82 or '83 when they started putting the advance into the ignitor.
          My 82 G had the advance incorporated into the igniter.
          De-stinking Penelope http://thegsresources.com/_forum/sho...d.php?t=179245

          http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...35#post1625535

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            #6
            Originally posted by Badooka View Post
            I use ACCEL and nothing else- Dyna just doesn't last for me-
            how would you use the accel on our bikes

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              #7
              Originally posted by tc862011 View Post
              how would you use the accel on our bikes
              I think he's talking coils.
              Ed

              To measure is to know.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Chuck78 View Post

                What I was wondering, whether or not the early 80's models that switched over to electronic ignition would swap the ignition pickup parts directly into a points engine? And if so, do they still use a mechanical advancer similar to the points setup? I am looking for the most reliable electronic ignition setup and a better spark, with less maintenance than points. What factory parts are the best bet for me to look for?

                Is there a big advantage to go with a different set of coils at this time as well?

                I believe the ignition signal generator plate is a direct swap on the 550 and 1000, not sure about the 750 but suspect that one as well. You need to get the type intended for use with a mechanical advance - as Dale suggests, some of the later GS bikes went to incorporating the advance curve into the ignitor.
                Ed

                To measure is to know.

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                Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                  #9
                  thats what i thought, figured i would ask

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by tc862011 View Post
                    how would you use the accel on our bikes
                    Originally posted by Nessism View Post
                    I think he's talking coils.
                    I was pleasantly surprised to find Accel coils on two of the bikes that I have gotten.

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                    mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                    hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                    #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                    #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                    Family Portrait
                    Siblings and Spouses
                    Mom's first ride
                    Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                    (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                      #11
                      Yep- ACCEL gives me perfect fire. That equals a perfect ride
                      I was speaking of the coils- Dyna brand just not reliable in my use.
                      Last edited by Guest; 08-21-2012, 11:15 AM.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by rwcfrank View Post
                        Pete has a great product and has been making these systems for the Ymaha 650 twin for years. 5 year warranty and works with stock coils. $115 shipped. http://www.gsignition.com/

                        So this works well with the Dyna and Accel 3.0 Ohm coils I assume ??

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                          #13
                          Thats my understanding.

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                            #14
                            I have had no problems with Dynatek's products & their customer service is second to NONE!!!
                            Ray.

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                              #15
                              After only a year and having some misfiring issues, the 1-4 pickup on my wife's Dyna-S just died. I read online a lot of other people who have had the same problem, but have also read of other people who say they are dead reliable.

                              I wanted to go with the GM HEI mod because it makes sense that putting the ignition's electronic controls components inside the engine would obviously get really hot, so no wonder the Dyna stuff craps out on some people. Having the electronics mounted outside of the engine on a heat sink plate makes way more sense to me.

                              I also noticed a trend of more people complaining about the 1-4 pickup on the Dyna dropping out, and I speculate that this may be due to the fact that the front of the engine there gets more direct cool airflow than the back. maybe I'm going out on a limb there since they are both in a sealed compartment together.
                              '77 GS750 920cc heavily modded
                              '97 Kawasaki KDX220R rugged terrain ripper!
                              '99 Kawasaki KDX220R​ rebuild in progress
                              '79 GS425stock
                              PROJECTS:
                              '77 Suzuki PE250 woods racer
                              '77 GS550 740cc major mods
                              '77 GS400 489cc racer build
                              '76 Rickman CR1000 GS1000/1100
                              '78 GS1000C/1100

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