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    Not starting after bike went down

    On Thanksgiving day in Oregon, the day was dry for a change and I decided to head out for a quick ride on my favorite road on my 82 Suzuki GS1100G. I was pretty cautious on the curves since there were wet spots and as I went around one corner, my bike ran over some gravel that had washed down and very quickly my bike and I were sliding down the road each on our side for about 20 feet or so. I was going maybe 30 mph.
    I got some road rash in two spots. A passing fellow rider stopped his car and helped me push the front wheel that was in a little low spot on the side of the road and we pushed it safely out of the way to the other side of the road.
    I then checked for damage and there was a little scratching on the edge of my vetter fairing, the right back turnsignal was scraped up and needs to be replaced. The case guard where there is a foot rest was bent slightly.
    The bike would not start after repeated attempts and I had it towed home.
    I thought the foot rest on the case guard had been pushed into the ignition cover and punctured it or something and damage the electronic ignition.
    I pulled the ignition cover off which was undamaged and did a visual inspection and no damage is apparent.
    The bike had recently had a lot of work and was running great. Now it is not.
    I would like to do some self diagnosis before taking it to the shop. If I understand the basics. Check fuel, fuel OK. Check electrics, see if the plugs are firing. On this item I need some advice. Do I just crank the engine with a plug removed and see if there is a spark? Any other advice on things that I can do to isolate the problem would be greatly appreciated.

    #2
    Also, coils were replaced several years ago. Bike was running strong at time bike went down.

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      #3
      just remove a plug and lay it on the cylinder head while cranking to check for a spark.
      check all fuses are good and all the electrics are working as they should.
      check for obvious "silly" things, like kill switch is in the run position, fuel is on ,(try putting it on prime, if the bike was laid down for a while, the fuel may have drained out of the carbs)
      1978 GS1085.

      Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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        #4
        Fuel probably drained from the bowls as it lay on it's side, put it on prime for a minute or to then try to start it. That would be the most logical explanation.
        1984 GS1100GK newest addition to the heard
        80 GS 1000gt- most favorite ride love this bike
        1978 GS1000E- Known as "RoadKill" , Finished :D
        83 gs750ed- first new purchase
        85 EX500- vintage track weapon
        1958Ducati 98 Tourismo
        “Remember When in doubt use full throttle, It may not improve the situation ,but it will end the suspense ,
        If it isn't going to make it faster or safer it isn't worth doing

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          #5
          As Agemax said, check the basic "silly" things first. Here's a couple more.

          - make sure the vacuum line to the petcock is still attached

          - gently tap all the carb bowls with a rubber mallet to release a possible "stuck" float.

          How much gas did you have in the tank? I have tried starting a bike that I "thought" had plenty of gas only to discover the opposite. Those big "G" tanks can appear to have a lot of fuel in them as you peer into the fill hole, but that petcock doesn't let it drain all the way down to dry. I'm always surprised at how much fuel is still in an "empty" tank.

          Also, it sounds like you laid the bike over on the right side - could it be the remaining fuel in the tank "sloshed" over to the tank's right-side lobe, leaving the petcock side dry?

          Must be something basic if the bike was running fine before the drop...

          Good luck - keep us posted.
          '85 GS550L - SOLD
          '85 GS550E - SOLD
          '82 GS650GL - SOLD
          '81 GS750L - SOLD
          '82 GS850GL - trusty steed
          '80 GS1100L - son's project bike
          '82 GS1100G - SOLD
          '81 GS1100E - Big Red (daily rider)

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            #6
            I would start looking at your electrical connections to see if anything possibly exposed and grounded out from when bike was jarred on its side.
            Would most likely be noticeable by melting or discoloration near the connectors. (happened to me before)
            May have even pulled loose connection.
            Lift up the seat first and take a peek, don't forget about connections in the headlight bucket.
            Have kickstand shutoff on that bike?
            Would be another thing I would check if it applies.

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              #7
              USUALLY, when a bike goes down, it floods the cylinders. Hold the throttle wide open & crank it over. This will clear the cylinders & 95% of the time is the issue after a drop. Ray.

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                #8
                I the kill switch on RUN?
                1983 GS 1100E w/ 1230 kit, .340 lift Web Cams, Ape heavy duty valve springs, 83 1100 head with 1.5mm oversized SS intake valves, 1150 crank, Vance and Hines 1150 SuperHub, Star Racing high volume oil pump gears, 36mm carebs Dynojet stage 3 jet kit, Posplayr's SSPB, Progressive rear shocks and fork springs, Dyna 2000, Dynatek green coils and Vance & Hines 4-1 exhaust.
                1985 GS1150ES stock with 85 Red E bodywork.

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                  #9
                  Probably flooded as Ray has suggested.

                  But.......since the points cover case guard was damaged, check that the igniter wires in that area haven't been severed where they appear from below the engine/frame and enter the side case. On the same side, check that the kill switch wires haven't been damaged where they attach to the switch.
                  :) The road to hell is paved with good intentions......................................

                  GS 850GN JE 894 10.5-1 pistons, Barnett Clutch, C-W 4-1, B-B MPD Ignition, Progressive suspension, Sport Demons. Sold
                  GS 850GT JE 1023 11-1 pistons. Sold
                  GS1150ES3 stock, V&H 4-1. Sold
                  GS1100GD, future resto project. Sold

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rapidray View Post
                    USUALLY, when a bike goes down, it floods the cylinders. Hold the throttle wide open & crank it over. This will clear the cylinders & 95% of the time is the issue after a drop. Ray.
                    +!

                    I'd try this !!

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                      #11
                      Yes, flooding often occurs after a bike has been down, glad you're OK, too, that's the important thing.
                      http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1352313915
                      1979 GS1000

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                        #12
                        Bill, pull all 4 plugs and spin the motor for a bit, then let it rest

                        Post up some pics of what your plugs look like
                        1978 GS 1000 (since new)
                        1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
                        1978 GS 1000 (parts)
                        1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
                        1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
                        1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
                        2007 DRz 400S
                        1999 ATK 490ES
                        1994 DR 350SES

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                          #13
                          Flood

                          Many times when a bike goes down it floods the cylinders. Try removing the plugs,ground them and crank it for a bit. Replace the plugs after cleaning them and try again. If it still fails to fire, hold the throttle wide open while cranking. It took me 20 minutes to get my Seca 650 to re- start after a tip over.
                          Good luck.

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                            #14
                            I thought he posted the bike went down in November?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Crankthat View Post
                              I thought he posted the bike went down in November?
                              Yeah, he probably got distracted with holiday stuff- certainly ain't flooded now!
                              1981 gs650L

                              "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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