No box rules

[lecroy]

Throttle stops are almost mandatory for index racing if you want to be competitive.
With all that said, I thought this thread was about reaction time delays.....
Tom

Tom, agree 100%. Tstops and some kind of electronics to run them are mandatory for the index classes from what I can tell. When I started the thread I was talking about reaction timers, but Tstops, retard etc. are all part of it. My b i t c h is just that it's a pain to not be able to use the boxes at the smaller tracks. You have to rewire the bike or have two or more bikes.

[RacingJake]

I'm no expert but,

Maybe they are looking at who's paying the entry fee and who the mass's are. Local streetbikes ride in, they race and then they ride home. If it's a small class then it may just die a slow death. I guess it's easy'er to eliminate a part from a hand full of racers then to make everybody else buy one or if they don't they won't even show up. From the sounds of it, it must cost a few bucks or everybody would have them. I think it might just come down to a numbers game and the box crowd are in the fish bowl.

As for me I like an open class, race what you want--- Hi-Tech against the Backyard mechanic. Most of the time I get my butt kicked from those guys but there are a few times I came out on Top and that was really fun.

[Anonymous]

My b i t c h is just that it's a pain to not be able to use the boxes at the smaller tracks. You have to rewire the bike or have two or more bikes.

LOL, Yup. When your use to leaving off the top bulb it can take quite some time making the adjustment. I think my GS wants to go Pro Tree racing when it grows up!

See ya in the lanes.....

[Anonymous]

I guess it shows my age, but I like doing it the old fashioned way. I don't even have an airshifter, which would be nice, but when I can beat the bikes that have some of the fancy electonics like I did this weekend, I feel good! In the Summit Series, the bikes run a pro tree (.400) and cannot have any more than an airshifter and a 2 stage rpm device. I have seen the full electronic cars run and I don't see how that is fun, I guess that is why God made us all uniquely different.

[lecroy]

when I can beat the bikes that have some of the fancy electonics like I did this weekend, I feel good!

but there are a few times I came out on Top and that was really fun.

If everyone agreed with these two we would be all set! But I think you are right Jake. Most of the bikes I see on test and tune at the local tracks are street bikes that people ride in. It's always been that way. But the number of bikes that run compared to cars is very small. Hard to believe that what the bike classes do has much of an impact on the tracks bottom line.

If you run at a pro race, test and tune will cost you $100 or so depending on the track. If you make three runs your lucky. If you race only once a month, it's not a lot of testing time. It would be great if people could bring some of this talent to their local tracks where they live. The local guys could have a chance to see pro bikes in action and try and out gun them. The pro guys could have a nice resource for testing trying to figure out how to handle the bumps in the track and get the thing to hook up. Everyone wins. Maybe tough running against a TG or SC bike in E/T racing, but that's how we learn.