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    #16
    Originally posted by Wester Cooley View Post
    An XR on a well groomed half mile is poetry in motion in my book.

    I just hope all of today's technology have not made half and mile flat track races a one groove affair.
    Today's flat track bikes don't slide as much as in the old days, particularly on tracks like Springfield which are so well groomed that they become more like pavement. These also tend to be one groove tracks in the corners. Looser tracks tend to be mulit-groove tracks. On short tracks and TT's they lean and slide like crazy. I saw a pic of Henry Wiles a couple years ago leaned so far over in a corner that I couldn't believe he didn't crash.

    Joe
    IBA# 24077
    '15 BMW R1200GS Adventure
    '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
    '08 Yamaha WR250R
    "Krusty's inner circle is a completely unorganized group of grumpy individuals uninterested in niceties like factual information. Our main purpose, in an unorganized fashion, is to do little more than engage in anecdotal stories and idle chit-chat while providing little or no actual useful information. And, of course, ride a lot and have tons of fun.....in a Krusty manner."

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      #17
      Originally posted by Joe Nardy View Post
      Ricky Graham (best ever, in my opinion).
      Originally posted by RichDesmond View Post

      Amen brother...
      Yes, Graham was the best natural rider I've ever seen. Despite his personal problems he was always able to adapt to any track or bike setup. I saw him win the Springfield Mile from the last row which is unheard of. His true ability showed through in '93 when he was sober and set a record of 12 wins. He was just incredible that year.

      Thanks,
      Joe
      IBA# 24077
      '15 BMW R1200GS Adventure
      '07 Triumph Tiger 1050 ABS
      '08 Yamaha WR250R
      "Krusty's inner circle is a completely unorganized group of grumpy individuals uninterested in niceties like factual information. Our main purpose, in an unorganized fashion, is to do little more than engage in anecdotal stories and idle chit-chat while providing little or no actual useful information. And, of course, ride a lot and have tons of fun.....in a Krusty manner."

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        #18
        Originally posted by Joe Nardy View Post
        Yes, Graham was the best natural rider I've ever seen. Despite his personal problems he was always able to adapt to any track or bike setup. I saw him win the Springfield Mile from the last row which is unheard of. His true ability showed through in '93 when he was sober and set a record of 12 wins. He was just incredible that year.

        Thanks,
        Joe
        Yep, and his battles with Bubba Shobert in the 80s may have been the best racing, of any type, ever. Incredible stuff.
        Be the 16th anniversary of his passing next week.

        http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/halloffame/detail.aspx?RacerID=6
        '20 Ducati Multistrada 1260S, '93 Ducati 750SS, '01 SV650S, '07 DL650, '01 DR-Z400S, '80 GS1000S, '85 RZ350

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          #19
          Originally posted by Joe Nardy View Post
          Today's flat track bikes don't slide as much as in the old days, On short tracks and TT's they lean and slide like crazy. I saw a pic of Henry Wiles a couple years ago leaned so far over in a corner that I couldn't believe he didn't crash.

          Joe
          Like this? National number 91 Mikey Martin on his home track

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            #20
            I think Joe and I think the "old days" were when flat track bikes didn't have brakes. There normally wasn't a blue groove on the track and the racers scrubbed speed with the slide. You rarely saw the freight trains going through the turns like you see now at Springfield or Indy.

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